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Are religious topics ok on the Poli Board again?
Posted on 12/13/12 at 8:43 am
Posted on 12/13/12 at 8:43 am
I'd love that, as I enjoyed the hell out of them in the past before they were "banned." It was my understanding that they had been, unless you could tie it into politics or something...something I never thought was possible without eventually turning into a basic religious debate.
So is this kind of thread ok now?
LINK
I'm not ratting it out to be deleted...I'd LOVE to have these types of threads again! I'd just rather not be rebanned for taking part in a thread like this if it isn't wanted on the forum in the first place.
Thanks.
So is this kind of thread ok now?
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I'm not ratting it out to be deleted...I'd LOVE to have these types of threads again! I'd just rather not be rebanned for taking part in a thread like this if it isn't wanted on the forum in the first place.
Thanks.
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Posted on 12/13/12 at 8:44 am to GeauxTigerTM
Maybe their own board 
This post was edited on 12/13/12 at 8:45 am
Posted on 12/13/12 at 9:01 am to GeauxTigerTM
quote:
Are religious topics ok on the Poli Board again?
Hell, no!
Posted on 12/13/12 at 9:09 am to LSURussian
God Dammit.
Posted on 12/13/12 at 9:17 am to GeauxTigerTM
sweet baby jesus, frick that thread
Posted on 12/13/12 at 9:27 am to McRebel42
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Maybe their own board
That was discussed...never came to fruition because it seemed like it would not be a truly open board where actual dissection could take place. Too many rules looking to be imposed on it that were not present on all the other boards.
You've got a board like the OT where some of the worst things possible can be posted and discussed, but arguments about religion among people who willingly click the threads and read and take part in them are verboten. Seems strange.
I'm just asking if the rule that got me booted for a while is actually still in effect. I'd prefer it not be, but if it is than I'm guessing threads like this ought to obviously qualify. It's nothing more than a trolling attempt to start an argument.
Posted on 12/13/12 at 10:44 am to GeauxTigerTM
Religion threads are still verboten.
The thread you linked was an ABC news story.
The thread you linked was an ABC news story.
Posted on 12/13/12 at 11:14 am to GeauxTigerTM
I'd just like to chime in again in support of a Religion, Science, & Philosophy board.
I really can't understand why it's considered so dangerous, but I guess there must be some business-related angle to it that would make a religion board more of a nuisance than a benefit. Interestingly enough, RealClearPolitics.com is a very successful website (admittedly not a message forum), and it's started a nice branch called RealClearReligion.org.
I can't say I know what the drawback is from the point of view of the admins, but if it's a fear that a religion board will bring too many trolls, I think that fear is absurd. The only reason religion trolls like to stir the pot is because they know they're in an environment that's not really serious. Anything more devoted to serious topics would likely make all the trolls bored to tears within a matter of days.
Just my two cents...
I really can't understand why it's considered so dangerous, but I guess there must be some business-related angle to it that would make a religion board more of a nuisance than a benefit. Interestingly enough, RealClearPolitics.com is a very successful website (admittedly not a message forum), and it's started a nice branch called RealClearReligion.org.
I can't say I know what the drawback is from the point of view of the admins, but if it's a fear that a religion board will bring too many trolls, I think that fear is absurd. The only reason religion trolls like to stir the pot is because they know they're in an environment that's not really serious. Anything more devoted to serious topics would likely make all the trolls bored to tears within a matter of days.
Just my two cents...
This post was edited on 12/13/12 at 11:17 am
Posted on 12/13/12 at 11:21 am to L.A.
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Religion threads are still verboten.
OK.
quote:
The thread you linked was an ABC news story.
About...religion. The entire story is about the validity of Noah's Ark. So how's this work? It can be posted because it's in the news...but can it be debated as historical fact? Can opposing views be presented that call into question this news piece, and the story of Noah itself? Will that not, buy its very nature, evolve into a more broad subject regarding Biblical stories, etc? Can a thread devolve into a straight up religious debate if the original story can be linked to a news article?
This isn't a case of a story about abortion or gay marriage being linked where religion plays a huge part, but is at it's heart a political topic. This is a case of someone posting a story that begs for an opposing viewpoint regarding the religious story itself.
All I'm asking for is guidance as to where this line gets drawn...because if the thread right now is fair game, I'm not exactly sure what isn't. And again...you'd be hard-pressed to find someone more happy if the ban was lifted than I...I'd just like to understand what the ground rules are...because this distinction doesn't seem clear in this case.
Thanks.
Posted on 12/13/12 at 11:24 am to GeauxTigerTM
I challenge you to start a thread on the Poli Board right now discussing the political ramifications of the Pope's first ever tweet!
Posted on 12/13/12 at 11:28 am to GeauxTigerTM
quote:Yes. A major, national new organization carried the story. It's news. It's historical.
It can be posted because it's in the news...
quote:I haven't read the thread. How's the debate going?
but can it be debated as historical fact?
Posted on 12/13/12 at 11:29 am to Doc Fenton
quote:Duly noted, Doc.
I'd just like to chime in again in support of a Religion, Science, & Philosophy board.
Posted on 12/13/12 at 11:32 am to Doc Fenton
quote:
I challenge you to start a thread on the Poli Board right now discussing the political ramifications of the Pope's first ever tweet!
Nah...I've been banned over this bullshite. I love debating this stuff, and I'd say that most people with whom I've debated this topic have found me to be respectful about it...even if we disagree strongly.
I'm just asking for some clarification, because I simply see absolutely no reason the current topic is allowed if your run of the mill religious debate is not. It's a story about the validity of Noah's Ark, for goodness sake. What kind of discussion is going to arise from that do you think? The whole thing seems completely arbitrary.
While I would not support a total and complete ban on all religious topics, I think trying to allows only CERTAIN kinds is hopeless and leads to this type of thing.
Posted on 12/13/12 at 11:36 am to L.A.
quote:
I haven't read the thread. How's the debate going?
Fine...by my standards. Of course, it went past the story about 5 posts in when the OP felt the need to call out atheists because of the story. If allowed to stay put and breathe, it will, by its very nature, evolve into a debate/discussion about the historicity of other Biblical claims, etc. We're already discussing evolution.
I'm fine with that and love this sort of thing. But it IS the very thing that got them tossed in the first place. It's one thread on the entire board, but because it's active it'll stay at around the top...and people looking to be offended will complain...and so on and so on.
Posted on 12/13/12 at 11:39 am to GeauxTigerTM
quote:For a guy who claims to like religious debate, you sure do a lot of complaining when a topic with religious ramifications is on the board. If I were you I'd just participate in the debate and be thankful that it's still on the board. I wouldn't be over here on the Help Board whining about how unfair the rules of a privately owned message board are. But that's just me.
I'm just asking for some clarification, because I simply see absolutely no reason the current topic is allowed if your run of the mill religious debate is not. It's a story about the validity of Noah's Ark, for goodness sake. What kind of discussion is going to arise from that do you think? The whole thing seems completely arbitrary.
While I would not support a total and complete ban on all religious topics, I think trying to allows only CERTAIN kinds is hopeless and leads to this type of thing.
Will it make you happy if I delete the thread?
Posted on 12/13/12 at 11:48 am to L.A.
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For a guy who claims to like religious debate, you sure do a lot of complaining when a topic with religious ramifications is on the board.
I've never complained about this. I've always loved them, and always enjoyed taking part in them.
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If I were you I'd just participate in the debate and be thankful that it's still on the board.
Gladly...but given I was nearly permabanned the last time I did this, I just wanted to see if things had changed.
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I wouldn't be over here on the Help Board whining about how unfair the rules of a privately owned message board are.
I'm not whining about anything. I'm asking for a clarification of the rules. At no point have I been disrespectful to you, or anyone else here. I'm sorry you feel the need to go that route with me.
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But that's just me.
Yes...it is.
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Will it make you happy if I delete the thread?
Keep it, delete it...call me a name and then ban me. At this point I don't give a flying frick. I came over to ask a simple question and get called out by an admin who seems to have some personal beef with me, despite the fact I did nothing to garner that type of reaction.
Enjoy the rest of your day.
Posted on 12/13/12 at 12:07 pm to sassyLSU
This post was edited on 2/17/13 at 6:09 pm
Posted on 12/13/12 at 12:08 pm to Flair Chops
Flair, keep wishing. I doubt that I'll be permabanned. I rarely post except when something shocks the daylights of of me...like the horrible language.
Posted on 12/13/12 at 12:10 pm to JDM1992
I would love a religious thread.
Posted on 12/13/12 at 12:11 pm to sassyLSU
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