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Who do pull for- Week 15 Draft Pick Edition

Posted on 12/11/12 at 1:26 pm
Posted by blueslover
deeper than deep south
Member since Sep 2007
22792 posts
Posted on 12/11/12 at 1:26 pm
I don't expect any degree of tanking by playing more guys "for next year". I can't bring myself to root for the Saints to lose either. I do anxiously look forward to what draft picks that might be added each year. The better those picks in position the more we can hope for in impact. Being out of the playoffs I can pull for the teams with worse records winning and getting above the Saints.

Here is the outlook for this week with current draft spot probabilities-

Saints current draft spot odds-
#7 5%
#8 5%
#9 7%
#10 11%
#11 10%
#12 9%
#13 11%
#14 13%
#15 9%
#16 6%
#17 5%
other spots are less than 5%. #7 to #17 is a huge difference in players:
#7s- Mark Barron, Aldon Smith, Joe Haden #17s- Dre Kirkpatrick, Nate Solder, Mike Iupati

Bengals @ Iggles- Go philly, they're 4-9 one game up on picks. We lose in the tiebreaker (for draft picks) so they need to win 2 more than the Saints out of the last 3 to gain a draft spot

Broncos @ Ravens- inconsequential, pull for whoever you like

Bucs 6-7 @ Saints 5-8- Saints loss is a solid two game difference in draft position. A win pulls teams into a tie with the Saints having the tiebreaker in the wrong way. This game could determine who finishes 2nd or 3rd as well as which one picks in front of the other (2011 TB #20 Clayborn NOLA #24 Jordan similar)

Colts @ Texans- inconsequential

Giants @ dirty birds- remote chance of 8-8 tie with NYG. I like seeing the dirty birds hit the skids in the stretch here more than those odds happening though.

Jags @ Phins- go Miami! Jax would have to win out & Saints lose out for that to mean anything. Miami is currently tied with Saints at 5-8. Move them on up

Packers 9-4 @ bears 8-5- inconsequential cept for remote chance of Bears & Saints at 8-8. Dunno who owns the tiebreaker with that.

Wash 7-6 @ Browns 5-8- go Cleveland! Another team tied with the same record as Saints. The more they win the better.

Vikes 7-6 @ StL 6-6-1- some more complicated tiebreakers to consider. StL is a 1/2 game closer to the Saints so I want them to win

Lions 4-9 @ AZ 4-9- both one game up on the Saints draft pick wise. I'd rather see Detroit get a worse draft pick than AZ so go Lions!

Panthers 4-9 @ SD 5-8- You can make a case either way. I go SD. They're tied with us at 5-8 and that gives them a definite bump up. Even if the kitty cats pick a place or two ahead of the Saints there still is some division pride of finishing 2nd or 3rd vs. last.

Seattle @ Bills- Go for the big upset in Buffalo! They're also tied at 5-8. Move'em up

KC @ Raiders- Either of these would have to win out and Saints lose out for the Saints to gain any ground. Feel free to pull for either one

Pitt 7-6 @ Dallas 7-6- A Dallas win would be better for the Saints draft position. It would also make a win there in two weeks less consequential draft pick wise. That's the facts but don't think I could still put go cowgirls in print ever.

Niners @ Pats- inconsequential

Jets 6-7 @ Titans 4-9- Go Titans! Jets would pull a little closer but TN is just a game away from bumping the Saints to a better draft spot.

This post was edited on 12/11/12 at 1:36 pm
Posted by Bduhon55
St. Petersburg, FL
Member since Sep 2008
3407 posts
Posted on 12/11/12 at 1:31 pm to
Win all 3 games and take whatever draft pick is given. I am not rooting for other teams to win unless they are playing the Falcons, Bucs, Panthers, Pats, or Steelers...or Tebow, mostly because i hate all of those teams and the Tebow mania is irritating.
Posted by blueslover
deeper than deep south
Member since Sep 2007
22792 posts
Posted on 12/11/12 at 1:39 pm to
that leaves 10 other games, ya know who ya pull for or what magic socks you wear can make all the diff in these things
Posted by Bduhon55
St. Petersburg, FL
Member since Sep 2008
3407 posts
Posted on 12/11/12 at 1:41 pm to
I cant wait for the Saints to pick Ryan Nassib in the 3rd rd and all of the tards to say Brees is done and Nassib is the future lol
Posted by blueslover
deeper than deep south
Member since Sep 2007
22792 posts
Posted on 12/11/12 at 1:53 pm to
actually starting to work on my 3rd Rd outlook.

In the pen for consideration:

Tony Jefferson FS Oklahoma, Desmond Trufant CB Washington (since we didn't trade up to get his brother in '03 and took Sullivan instead), Robert Lester SS Alabama (one gump for another), Corey Lemonier DE Auburn, Bacarri Rambo FS Georgia, Sean Porter LB TxAM, Gerald Hodges LB PennSt, Benny Logan DT LSU
Posted by blueslover
deeper than deep south
Member since Sep 2007
22792 posts
Posted on 12/13/12 at 9:05 am to
As stated, expect no tanking. The remaining bucs and panthers game will be very critical tho whether vying for 2nd place or potentially up to 10 spot difference in draft position. We'll see the potential draft range tighten to 6-7 places one way or another after this week.

bucs 6-7
Saints 5-8
cats 4-9

Draft position by record the past 3 years-

8-8: 13 to 20, 17 & 18, 13 to 17, average of 16.1
7-9: 11 & 12, 13 to 16, 10 to 12, average 12.6
6-10: 8 to 10, 7 to 13, 9th, average 9.6
5-11: 6 & 7, 5 & 6, 6 to 8, average 6.4

Just for kicks-
#6 picks: Claiborne, Julio Jones, Okung, Andre Smith, Gholston, Laron Landry, Vernon Davis
#16 picks: Quinton Coples, Ryan Kerrigan, Derrick Morgan, Larry English, Rodgers-Cromartie, Justin Harrell, Jason Allen
Posted by Suntiger
BR or somewhere else
Member since Feb 2007
32846 posts
Posted on 12/13/12 at 9:16 am to
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Who do pull for- Week 15 Draft Pick Edition




quote:

I don't expect any degree of tanking by playing more guys "for next year".


I'd like to see us work on some stuff for next year. Vanilla on offense and try some exotic screens, Annexation of Porte Rico and stuff like that.

I'd also like to see some guys like Joe Morgan get get some reps. Can Toon play? Let Hicks and IAQ start and play a majority of snaps. See if Wilson is worth keeping or not. Try out our young OL as starters. Things like that.
Posted by Brettesaurus Rex
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2009
38259 posts
Posted on 12/13/12 at 9:23 am to
While I won't be rooting for it, I really hope we lose out. I want a damn difference maker on the defense. If we're not picking in th top 15 I don't really see that
Posted by blueslover
deeper than deep south
Member since Sep 2007
22792 posts
Posted on 12/13/12 at 9:48 am to
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Joe Morgan get get some reps

think we'll see. even tho he only has 7 catches, anyone who can average over 40yds per has to be fully tested to see whatch got. Kinda spells the end of Devery IMO
quote:

Can Toon play?

nope
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Let Hicks and IAQ start and play a majority of snaps

No Jenkins so good time to get a full test on IAQ. All for more of Hicks. I'd release Ellis right now just to make a statement- get your disappointing fatass and the $33 million you've taken from our team back to California.
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See if Wilson is worth keeping or not.

Definite keeper to me, prolly one of the best examples of a guy just needing more reps. Maybe if they are mathematically eliminated maybe Smith can sit out the end of his Saints career.
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Try out our young OL as starters

Not in favor as long as Brees is under center. If mathematically eliminated I'd want Daniel in but we won't see that.







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