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Graceland

Posted on 12/9/12 at 3:13 pm
Posted by Rex
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Posted on 12/9/12 at 3:13 pm
No, not the place... the album. Absolutely fantastic. Some few things are as good but there is nothing better.

This is the story of how we begin to remember
This is the powerful pulsing of love in the vein
After the dream of falling and calling your name out
These are the roots of rhythm
And the roots of rhythm remain
Posted by Pintail
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Posted on 12/9/12 at 3:14 pm to
Posted by Rex
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Posted on 12/9/12 at 3:15 pm to
I forget there's a music board here.
Posted by IonaTiger
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Posted on 12/9/12 at 4:07 pm to
I can listen to and watch this video over and over:

"Diamonds On The Souls of Her Shoes"
Posted by cigsmcgee
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Member since May 2012
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Posted on 12/9/12 at 4:14 pm to
there's a good "classic albums" doc on this.

LINK

pretty sure it's on netflix. they do alot of great albums. they're all worth a watch.
Posted by beezylsu
Member since Jan 2011
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Posted on 12/9/12 at 4:17 pm to
Graceland is an amazing album. Paul Simon is one of the greatest singer/songwriters of all time.

Boy In The Bubble
Posted by Baloo
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Posted on 12/9/12 at 4:46 pm to
Great album. My only problem with it is that it totally overshadows the remarkably underrated Hearts and Bones album from a few years prior. But Simon really kills it here, even if we can sort of blame him for the brief popularity of "world music".

I do enjoy how much Los Lobos hates him over this album.

LINK /
Posted by TFTC
Chicago, Il
Member since May 2010
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Posted on 12/9/12 at 5:05 pm to
Ha... I never knew that about Los Lobos and Paul Simon...

I love both of them and both put on a great live show... Now I gotta pick a side...
Posted by redneck hippie
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Posted on 12/9/12 at 5:35 pm to
great album for sure.

I was coming in to post the Los Lobos deal too. Paul is a first class dick for not giving them credit on that album.
Posted by Rex
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Posted on 12/9/12 at 5:50 pm to
quote:

Great album. My only problem with it is that it totally overshadows the remarkably underrated Hearts and Bones album from a few years prior.

I preferred Rhythm of the Saints but everything Simon is great.
Posted by Baloo
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Posted on 12/9/12 at 5:52 pm to
I don't know. They played as session musicians and got paid the session rate. Simon recorded the entire album this way -- just bringing in musicians and jamming. Los Lobos admits they were uncomfortable with this process of songwriting, and played music that had been working on previously. Simon claims they never told him it was one of their works until after Graceland was a successful album.

And Los Lobos claiming they were the more popular band at the time is laughable. Hearts and Bones was a commercial disappointment, but it still was a top 40 album. One Trick Pony charted top 10. I think they played a lick in a Paul Simon session they wanted to reserve for themselves, and only got upset after the album sold a billion copies. No one doubts Simon wrote the lyrics, and the big part of Myth of the Fingerprints is the lyrics. Simon tells a pretty funny story.

I don't think Los Lobos' claim is without merit, but I also don't think its this crime against music they try and claim. You signed up as session players for someone else's album, you played the lick and din't stop him from using it, and didn't try to cash in until after he sold a bunch of copies. I don't feel like they are entirely in the right here. Simon did give credit to many players throughout the album, so its clear he felt Los Lobos didn't contribute like some other musicians. And since they make it sound like they were in the the studio for two days, Simon is right.
Posted by Rex
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Posted on 12/9/12 at 6:02 pm to
I just find it hard to believe that Los Lobos could ever produce something as great as The Myth of Fingerprints... what's in their repertoire that would indicate such?
Posted by TFTC
Chicago, Il
Member since May 2010
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Posted on 12/9/12 at 6:14 pm to
Now that I know it the music sounds very Los Lobo-ish at its basic level... I dont doubt the lyrics maybe Paul's, as well as the arrangement..

I tend to believe their account off of that article, they get nothing out of it but to call him a dick...

If it someones song you recognize them, pretty simple..

This post was edited on 12/9/12 at 6:14 pm
Posted by TFTC
Chicago, Il
Member since May 2010
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Posted on 12/9/12 at 6:20 pm to
quote:

what's in their repertoire that would indicate such?


Listen to Kiko...
Posted by redneck hippie
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Posted on 12/9/12 at 7:26 pm to
quote:

I just find it hard to believe that Los Lobos could ever produce something as great as The Myth of Fingerprints... what's in their repertoire that would indicate such?


Los Lobos are the most overlooked band in America. Colossal Head and Kiko are two of the greatest albums ever. Great band that is still on the road and very relevant.
Posted by TFTC
Chicago, Il
Member since May 2010
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Posted on 12/9/12 at 8:08 pm to
Definitely one our best Rock n Roll bands... Kiko kinda broke the patter on their straight ahead sound... All amazing musicians (which doesnt always work in rock, for me)...
Posted by kage
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Member since Feb 2010
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Posted on 12/9/12 at 8:21 pm to
quote:

here's a good "classic albums" doc on this.

LINK

pretty sure it's on netflix. they do alot of great albums. they're all worth a watch.


I watched it on Netflix streaming over Thanksgiving weekend. I watched that one and the Marley Catch a Fire one. Both pretty good.
Posted by urinetrouble
Member since Oct 2007
20503 posts
Posted on 12/9/12 at 10:09 pm to
quote:

Graceland is an amazing album. Paul Simon is one of the greatest singer/songwriters of all time.



Yep.

Graceland is one of my "desert island" albums. Every song is superb. Crazy Love Vol. II might be my favorite song on the album.

I saw Paul Simon live in New Orleans last year. Great show.
Posted by Rex
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Posted on 12/10/12 at 8:44 am to
"Sad as a lonely little wrinkled balloon."

The greatest thing about Paul Simon is his poetic storytelling...

"And the moon rose over an open field" is my favorite moment in all of music. Gives me chills.

Posted by Dr. 3
Member since Mar 2005
11353 posts
Posted on 12/10/12 at 10:37 am to
I finally gave Graceland a listen to last week. Very good album. Prolly listen again today.

America is certainly one of his top 3 works.

My personal favorite of his is "Kathy's Song"
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