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If Mathieu replicated last season this year, would he win the Heisman?
Posted on 12/8/12 at 3:49 pm
Posted on 12/8/12 at 3:49 pm
well?
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Posted on 12/8/12 at 3:50 pm to kaduceus
assuming that LSU would have won the west due to winning an extra game, won the SEC title, and that he had no more suspensions, maybe.
Posted on 12/8/12 at 3:51 pm to kaduceus
Yes, IF he had played for the media darling Notre Dame.
Posted on 12/8/12 at 3:53 pm to kaduceus
You're opening old wounds. Loved that kid.
Posted on 12/8/12 at 3:53 pm to kaduceus
If he would've stopped getting into trouble, not sure if he'd win it, but he'd more than likely be a finalist again.
The crowd he hung around with didn't help matters.
I do wish him well, still am amazed at his play making ability but his demons got the best of him.
The crowd he hung around with didn't help matters.
I do wish him well, still am amazed at his play making ability but his demons got the best of him.
Posted on 12/8/12 at 3:54 pm to kaduceus
No. Manziel's season has been way too strong for anyone else to have a chance - provided they don't play for Notre Dame.
Posted on 12/8/12 at 3:54 pm to StealthCalais11
Sure Manziel is fun as hell to watch, but had some major hiccups against our defense.
Which I think would have even been more drastic if Mathieu was playing as well.
It would be Manziel vs Mathieu as opposed to Manziel looking like he will run away with it
Which I think would have even been more drastic if Mathieu was playing as well.
It would be Manziel vs Mathieu as opposed to Manziel looking like he will run away with it
Posted on 12/8/12 at 3:54 pm to kaduceus
Picture this: Bama on our 20, down by three, throws that screen pass to Yeldon. It would have been TM7 blitzing instead of Mills. Mills blew the assignment and didn't pick up Yeldon. Instead of that TM7 disrupts the play, bats the ball, and runs it back for a TD. LSU is in the BCSCG and TM7 would win the Heisman.
Posted on 12/8/12 at 3:55 pm to AtlantaLSUfan
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You're opening old wounds. Loved that kid.
Me too, sorry to do that
The only sports jersey I own is an LSU #7, got it for Christmas, was hoping to get it signed by him eventually
Posted on 12/8/12 at 3:59 pm to la_birdman
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his demons got the best of him.
Demons?
What demons?
Mathieu's problems are self inflicted, not the result of outside dark forces working against him.
I respect his talent, effort and dedication, but I can't excuse his behavior. He knew what he was doing was wrong, illegal, and self destructive.
The only demon involved here was Mathieu himself.
Posted on 12/8/12 at 4:03 pm to kaduceus
Only, and only, if we'd won the NC last year, and were getting ready to play for it again this year. Everyone gets caught up in the Jim McMahon type of syndrome. When you're surrounded by greatness, there's a huge margin for error, and when everyone else has competently got your back, and doing their jobs, everyone looks great. Love Mathieu, and wish him the best. 
Posted on 12/8/12 at 4:03 pm to Penrod
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Picture this: Bama on our 20, down by three, throws that screen pass to Yeldon. It would have been TM7 blitzing instead of Mills. Mills blew the assignment and didn't pick up Yeldon. Instead of that TM7 disrupts the play, bats the ball, and runs it back for a TD. LSU is in the BCSCG and TM7 would win the Heisman.
This is actually quite possible.
Posted on 12/8/12 at 4:03 pm to Gray Tiger
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Mathieu's problems are self inflicted
Exactly. I'm not saying it was some force from an alternate dimension.
The guy couldn't stay away from drugs. (demons, vices, habits, what have you)
quote:
The only demon involved here was Mathieu himself.
I agree. He only has himself to blame.
That's exactly what I was saying.
It was the right thing to do to kick him off the team.
I'm not going to hate on the kid but I'm not going to worship the ground he walks on either. Fair enough?
ETA: I do still wish him well. Hope he turns his life around but who knows.
This post was edited on 12/8/12 at 4:05 pm
Posted on 12/8/12 at 4:04 pm to Gray Tiger
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Demons? What demons? Mathieu's problems are self inflicted, not the result of outside dark forces working against him. I respect his talent, effort and dedication, but I can't excuse his behavior. He knew what he was doing was wrong, illegal, and self destructive. The only demon involved here was Mathieu himself.
I have to agree with you here
He isn't addicted to marijuana, he just liked getting high.
And knew that he shouldn't.
But did anyway.
And here we are.
Posted on 12/8/12 at 4:14 pm to AtlantaLSUfan
Posted on 12/8/12 at 4:17 pm to kaduceus
Let it go friend
Posted on 12/8/12 at 4:27 pm to la_birdman
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I do still wish him well. Hope he turns his life around but who knows.
I totally agree.
Posted on 12/8/12 at 4:51 pm to makinskrilla
I still say this was a great season considering all the chaos, but HB was the playmaker we missed this year that I believe would have made us 13-0.
This post was edited on 12/8/12 at 4:53 pm
Posted on 12/8/12 at 5:41 pm to Gray Tiger
i saw a study recently that even personalities can be inherited.
i've heard for years that alcoholism is genetically passed.
i've seen many people get clean and sober in later life (from their 20's to 60's) and they were always good people, just addicted.
whatever, in my elder years, i've learned to try to be more compassionate toward all.
i've heard for years that alcoholism is genetically passed.
i've seen many people get clean and sober in later life (from their 20's to 60's) and they were always good people, just addicted.
whatever, in my elder years, i've learned to try to be more compassionate toward all.
Posted on 12/8/12 at 5:46 pm to blackjackjackson
This isn't a whining thread about losing TM7
It's just how last year he got his invite and most people knew he wasn't going to win it. . .
but this year I think he would have won by a convincing margin against the people up for it this year
It's just how last year he got his invite and most people knew he wasn't going to win it. . .
but this year I think he would have won by a convincing margin against the people up for it this year
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