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re: Need OB Help!-New Rifle
Posted on 12/6/12 at 9:20 am to Chad504boy
Posted on 12/6/12 at 9:20 am to Chad504boy
You can shoot deer at 300 yards with a .270, but you typically need the 7mm or .300 for that or longer shots on bigger animals
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Posted on 12/6/12 at 9:23 am to mspill2
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mspill2
aren't you already, like, in a group of guys who hunts a lot.
Posted on 12/6/12 at 9:24 am to chipsanddip
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chipsanddip
What up Chip? You know this cat fo real?
Posted on 12/6/12 at 9:25 am to chipsanddip
Whos alter are you?
Posted on 12/6/12 at 9:35 am to mspill2
.270 or 30-.06 make the most sense for the situation you have described. Nearly any hunting caliber rifle will do the job inside 150 yards, but those two are your most economical while still offering a decent selection of ammo types.
Posted on 12/6/12 at 9:51 am to mspill2
Ill take the plunge... If you already have a 7-08 get the magnum cartridge. You'll have two great calibers that aren't right on top of each other ballistically.
Posted on 12/6/12 at 9:55 am to mspill2
No offense to anyone on here but do some of y'all realize that if you don't shoot over a hundred and fifty yards you don't need these cannons that you are shooting. I constantly hear people talk about the long 200 yard shot with a 300 win mag. Mine is sighted in at two hundred and can consistently hit a foot plate at 600 with slight cross wind. A .243 should be more than enough rifle at 150 yards all day without destroying meat and costing more per shot. All I hunt with around here is a 6.5. A lot of people who shoot the large calibers are not even getting proper expansion out of the rounds at that short of a distance. This is not intended to be a flame more just as a question for the thought behind this thought process.
Posted on 12/6/12 at 10:01 am to mspill2
Any of the calibers you named are perfectly adequate for deer from the end of the muzzle to 400 yards. All of them will do the job and I doubt that any of the deer you hit would ever know the difference.
So, you are really getting into gun looney territory. You don't need a new rifle, but if you just have to get one, just pick a caliber and go with it. All of those are adequate.
If I could only have one of those mentioned, I would go with the 30-06. It shoots heavier bullets marginally better than the .270 and the 7mm-08. It has less recoil and muzzle blast with only slightly less performance than the .300 mag. It is cheaper to shoot than any of the others and you will can find 30-06 ammo in a grocery store.
So, you are really getting into gun looney territory. You don't need a new rifle, but if you just have to get one, just pick a caliber and go with it. All of those are adequate.
If I could only have one of those mentioned, I would go with the 30-06. It shoots heavier bullets marginally better than the .270 and the 7mm-08. It has less recoil and muzzle blast with only slightly less performance than the .300 mag. It is cheaper to shoot than any of the others and you will can find 30-06 ammo in a grocery store.
This post was edited on 12/6/12 at 10:03 am
Posted on 12/6/12 at 10:11 am to Hawgon
.270 is simply the 30-06 parent case necked down to 6.8mm.
Both are great rounds and have great ammo selection. I tend to lean to the side of the 30-06 since it has such a wide range bullet weights it can shoot, from 55gr to 250gr. Granted, some of those will be much less accurate, it does give you some really good choices to choose from. I prefer to deer hunt with 165gr Swift Scirroco IIs (handload).
On the other hand, my dad has been slaying deer with his Winchester model 70 in .270 Winchester for years. He's on his second barrel for it because he's shot it so damn much. He likes the flatter trajectory but he said he would have no problem using the 30-06. The 270 was his first deer rifle so he has a soft spot for it.
So as far as it goes for me, 30-06 = 270. They're about on par with each other. I tend to prefer 30-06 but either will do.
I will mention this also - if you handload, there are an absolute insane number of .308" bullets out there to choose from. In that respect, 30-06 has a slight advantage.
Both are great rounds and have great ammo selection. I tend to lean to the side of the 30-06 since it has such a wide range bullet weights it can shoot, from 55gr to 250gr. Granted, some of those will be much less accurate, it does give you some really good choices to choose from. I prefer to deer hunt with 165gr Swift Scirroco IIs (handload).
On the other hand, my dad has been slaying deer with his Winchester model 70 in .270 Winchester for years. He's on his second barrel for it because he's shot it so damn much. He likes the flatter trajectory but he said he would have no problem using the 30-06. The 270 was his first deer rifle so he has a soft spot for it.
So as far as it goes for me, 30-06 = 270. They're about on par with each other. I tend to prefer 30-06 but either will do.
I will mention this also - if you handload, there are an absolute insane number of .308" bullets out there to choose from. In that respect, 30-06 has a slight advantage.
Posted on 12/6/12 at 10:12 am to mspill2
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i want something with great power as i never shoot over 150 yards where i hunt
If you're not shooting over 150 yards then I'd go with a 444 Marlin. I've yet to have a deer run out of my sight with mine.
Posted on 12/6/12 at 10:23 am to mspill2
I would like to commend everyone on the grown up responses to this thread.
Now i will ruin it by reccommending a judge.
Now i will ruin it by reccommending a judge.
Posted on 12/6/12 at 10:24 am to hardhead
Posted on 12/6/12 at 10:26 am to bapple
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I will mention this also - if you handload, there are an absolute insane number of .308" bullets out there to choose from. In that respect, 30-06 has a slight advantage.
That is an understatement. I have been running Berger 168 VLD's through my .300
Posted on 12/6/12 at 10:27 am to hardhead
He said for deer. Not squatch hunting.
Posted on 12/6/12 at 10:47 am to DownshiftAndFloorIt
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.270 and .30-06 are based off the same case and aren't much different. 7mm-08 is a .308 necked down to 7mm and there's not much difference between them
The .308s parent is the .30-06 as well.
Just FYI.
To the OP, if my maximum range was inside 200 yds and I already had a 7mm-08, I'd probably recommend a .35 Whelen, .444 or the like. Those will extend your season as well in a single shot gun.
Posted on 12/6/12 at 10:52 am to bbvdd
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The .308s parent is the .30-06 as well.
The .308 has a slight velocity disadvantage. The .308 is 7.62x51 whereas 30-06 is 7.62x63.
I love .308 though and think it's a very capable round. I wouldn't hesitate to recommend one to somebody.
This post was edited on 12/6/12 at 12:19 pm
Posted on 12/6/12 at 11:08 am to TutHillTiger
quote:you from new jersey or massachusetts or one of those type places or pretty much just normal dumb?
A 300 mag with literally kick you off a damn stand if you are not careful. (Wet day wet shoes etc) plus not safe for everyone else in woods for your bullet to still have kill power two miles away man. Likely to kill a somebody or more likely a car, AC, or somebodies house.
Posted on 12/6/12 at 11:10 am to bbvdd
I thought the .308 was completely redesigned to facilitate feeding in automatic weapons?
Posted on 12/6/12 at 11:16 am to DownshiftAndFloorIt
It was derived from the 300 Savage. No idea where this relation to 30/06 comes from unless it's claimed the latter was greatly modified.
Posted on 12/6/12 at 11:20 am to Ole Geauxt
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you from new jersey or massachusetts or one of those type places or pretty much just normal dumb?
Damn OG
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