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re: Evidence Strongly Suggesting Alabama Officiating Bias

Posted on 12/4/12 at 2:32 pm to
Posted by prplngldtigr
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Posted on 12/4/12 at 2:32 pm to
Can you narrow it down to just holding calls?
Posted by Stingray
Shreveport
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Posted on 12/4/12 at 2:33 pm to
quote:

CptBengal


I agree. My method still proves a difference between LSU and Alabama.
Since you seem to have a better understanding of statistics, maybe you could perform the test you suggested?
Posted by Stingray
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Posted on 12/4/12 at 2:34 pm to
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All games or just SEC games?


regular season, no SECCG or bowls
Posted by CptBengal
BR Baby
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Posted on 12/4/12 at 2:39 pm to
quote:

Since you seem to have a better understanding of statistics, maybe you could perform the test you suggested?


sure,

email me the raw data, and I'll be happy to write the code and email you the results.

my screenname at gmail dot com.
Posted by jp90
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Posted on 12/4/12 at 2:43 pm to
adderall is a helluva drug
Posted by Stingray
Shreveport
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Posted on 12/4/12 at 2:44 pm to
All you need is the number of penalties each game by both teams?

I can email that to you, but it is as simple as going to both teams website and finding the box score of each team. Presently, I have the data scribbled on loose leaf.

I did an internet standard error and t test calculator, btw.
Posted by Dalosaqy
I can't quite re
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Posted on 12/4/12 at 2:50 pm to
Margin of error?
Posted by Gizmeaux
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Posted on 12/4/12 at 2:51 pm to





This post was edited on 12/4/12 at 2:52 pm
Posted by YouthInAsia
Member since May 2008
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Posted on 12/4/12 at 2:51 pm to
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I performed a t test


stopped reading here.
Posted by LSU82BILL
Fort Lauderdale, FL
Member since Sep 2006
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Posted on 12/4/12 at 2:52 pm to
It is kinda interesting that the 89 penalties in 2003 and the 73 penalties in 2004 that LSU had under Saban are more than ANY Alabama team had in that 10 year stretch.
Posted by CptBengal
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Posted on 12/4/12 at 2:53 pm to
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I can email that to you, but it is as simple as going to both teams website and finding the box score of each team.


time I dont have/really want to spend. But I will write the code and do the analysis. Maybe we could collaborate on an article for TD on it if you want, maybe Chicken would even post it on the front page

Anyway, those are my terms as a statistical consultant.
Posted by Stingray
Shreveport
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Posted on 12/4/12 at 2:55 pm to
quote:

It is kinda interesting that the 89 penalties in 2003 and the 73 penalties in 2004 that LSU had under Saban are more than ANY Alabama team had in that 10 year stretch.


The listed penalties per year are in backwards order, 2012 is first, so 89 is 2012. Sorry, probably should have put them in chrono order.
Posted by Stingray
Shreveport
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Posted on 12/4/12 at 2:57 pm to
quote:

Anyway, those are my terms as a statistical consultant.


Fair terms. I will email, after I eat.
Posted by InLesWeTrust
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Posted on 12/4/12 at 3:00 pm to
Posted by Double Down
Mayor of St. George
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Posted on 12/4/12 at 3:04 pm to
Numbers don't lie, fellas. Why is everybody busting balls over actual statistics? I am not out beating the bushes and crying foul over every perceived discrepancy but this (if true) is pretty legit.
Posted by CharlesLSU
Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 12/4/12 at 3:07 pm to
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awful method.

You should compare the penalties against the same teams using a mutivariate ANOVA with an auto-regressive error structure.

You probability value for the tail of 0.0001 seems absurd anyway. Did you use a 1 or two tailed test? What was your null hypothesis?



...frickin nerds.....
Posted by The Mick
Member since Oct 2010
43058 posts
Posted on 12/4/12 at 3:10 pm to
quote:

You should compare the penalties against the same teams using a mutivariate ANOVA with an auto-regressive error structure.

You probability value for the tail of 0.0001 seems absurd anyway. Did you use a 1 or two tailed test? What was your null hypothesis?
Agreed. His deviant coefficient leaves a lot to be desired as well, respectfully of course.
Posted by jrodLSUke
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Posted on 12/4/12 at 3:26 pm to
Posted by TexasTiger1185
New Orleans
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Posted on 12/4/12 at 3:32 pm to
This suggests that we aren't as disciplined and play more aggressive football.

Which, contrary to your belief, is actually more likely than a bias towards alabama.
Posted by LagdonCG
Member since Jul 2010
998 posts
Posted on 12/4/12 at 3:34 pm to
What gets me is the way the officials seem to gloat over calling a penalty against LSU in Alabama game, particularly in T Town.

I also thought Georgia got some lousy calls and spots in the CG.
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