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re: Heisman Finalists Just Announced Live on ESPN
Posted on 12/3/12 at 5:51 pm to Archie Bengal Bunker
Posted on 12/3/12 at 5:51 pm to Archie Bengal Bunker
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Face the facts, Te'o will win. Three reasons:
1. Only one on an undefeated team
2. Notre Dame
3. Only threat is a freshman
Tebow was the first sophomore to win the award and did so on an 9-3 team. (Eventually 9-4)
This post was edited on 12/3/12 at 5:53 pm
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Posted on 12/3/12 at 5:53 pm to TigerTatorTots
7 picks > 7 forced fumbles IMO, unless they were all recovered by the D.
To even be in the discussion as a defensive player you have to either score or generate a lot of turnovers. I've got no problem with T'eo being there, especially in such a weak year.
To even be in the discussion as a defensive player you have to either score or generate a lot of turnovers. I've got no problem with T'eo being there, especially in such a weak year.
Posted on 12/3/12 at 5:56 pm to ZereauxSum
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especially in such a weak year.
JFF just had the best season any QB in SEC history has ever had, and a top-5 QB season of all time
Posted on 12/3/12 at 5:56 pm to Jumbeauxlaya
Posted on 12/3/12 at 5:57 pm to TigerBwoy
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Klein
Posted on 12/3/12 at 5:58 pm to SlowFlowPro
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JFF just had the best season any QB in SEC history has ever had, and a top-5 QB season of all time
Agree. I should have said that the field overall is weak. Outside of him there really hasn't been anyone that was incredibly impressive.
Posted on 12/3/12 at 5:58 pm to ZereauxSum
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To even be in the discussion as a defensive player you have to either score or generate a lot of turnovers
Comparing LB stats is a fruitless mindnumbing exercise in futility.
For starters, teams with great defenses (ND Top 2 in the country) are not going to be on the field long; teams with great defenses also have other solid defenders making tackles around them.
Additionally, if your team is on offense a lot (ND #11 in Time of Possession) you have even less opportunities on defense to make plays.
Manti Teo is not a Heisman candidate or a Top 10 projected draft pick for his on-field numbers...and for those that get that, props to them.
Posted on 12/3/12 at 6:00 pm to SlowFlowPro
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JFF just had the best season any QB in SEC history has ever had
against SEC competition or against poverty FCS schools?
Posted on 12/3/12 at 6:00 pm to Dr RC
So what you are saying is that Manziel racked up all of his stats against non BCS teams or losing BCS teams?
Posted on 12/3/12 at 6:00 pm to SlowFlowPro
Braxton Miller? Oh i get it, he plays for Ohio State i forgot.
Posted on 12/3/12 at 6:01 pm to ZereauxSum
quote:So sacks and TFL mean nothing as a LB? K cool.
7 picks > 7 forced fumbles IMO, unless they were all recovered by the D.
Posted on 12/3/12 at 6:02 pm to TigerBwoy
ML wasn't even a finalist? 
Posted on 12/3/12 at 6:05 pm to ZereauxSum
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Marquise Lee
Why THIS guy is not there is beyond me. Yes playing for a 7-5 team doesn't help but still the guy is wicked good.
I will put it this way. A & M is barely a .500 team without Johnny footrball. ND would have still won 10 games without Tai'
Posted on 12/3/12 at 6:05 pm to rocket31
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Additionally, if your team is on offense a lot (ND #11 in Time of Possession) you have even less opportunities on defense to make plays.
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For starters, teams with great defenses (ND Top 2 in the country) are not going to be on the field long
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Manti Teo is not a Heisman candidate
Am I slow or did you make two arguments in favor of T'eo before stating that he wasn't a Heisman candidate?
Posted on 12/3/12 at 6:06 pm to ZereauxSum
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before stating that he wasn't a Heisman candidate?
read the rest of the sentence m8
Posted on 12/3/12 at 6:07 pm to TigerTatorTots
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So sacks and TFL mean nothing as a LB? K cool.
Some dude in the MAC has 100+ tackles this season. Do you know his name?
Neither do I.
Posted on 12/3/12 at 6:07 pm to TigerBwoy
I hope Manziel wins. I like his style.
Posted on 12/3/12 at 6:08 pm to rocket31
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read the rest of the sentence m8
My bad...long day
Posted on 12/3/12 at 6:08 pm to Zamoro10
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ML wasn't even a finalist?
I hate USCw, but this guy has to be a finalist. I think he should be up there with JFF for the heisman frontrunners
Posted on 12/3/12 at 6:09 pm to rocket31
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against SEC competition or against poverty FCS schools?
both
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