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re: PROMETHEUS without knowing anything about it
Posted on 12/3/12 at 10:05 am to Qwerty
Posted on 12/3/12 at 10:05 am to Qwerty
quote:
what are David's motivations,
SPOILERS
This was my main beef with the film. Why did he slip a goo mickey to the dude? Why did he want the Girl with the Dragon Tattoo to give birth to an octopus?
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Posted on 12/3/12 at 10:08 am to EarthwormJim
Watch Coco's video
Posted on 12/3/12 at 10:15 am to manwich
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Watch Coco's video
I will when I get a chance.
But I shouldn't have to watch a 20 minute youtube video to understand a character's motivations.
Posted on 12/3/12 at 10:22 am to EarthwormJim
When I watched it in theaters, I felt like David was sent there to see what was really up if they found anything. And that if something was found, experiment as he saw fit, with the crew being expendable if need be.
The video does a good job explaining everything, but most of it is things that were easily figure-outable(?) and it just goes into more detail.
The video does a good job explaining everything, but most of it is things that were easily figure-outable(?) and it just goes into more detail.
Posted on 12/3/12 at 10:37 am to EarthwormJim
quote:i agree, you shouldn't but some people are slower than others
But I shouldn't have to watch a 20 minute youtube video to understand a character's motivations.
Posted on 12/3/12 at 10:38 am to Harry Caray
What rock do you live under?
Posted on 12/3/12 at 10:43 am to CocomoLSU
quote:
When I watched it in theaters, I felt like David was sent there to see what was really up if they found anything. And that if something was found, experiment as he saw fit, with the crew being expendable if need be.
The video does a good job explaining everything, but most of it is things that were easily figure-outable(?) and it just goes into more detail.
Ok, I just watched the video, most of the stuff on there were things I had already assumed.
But my gripe is still the same. The video makes it seem like David's motivation was simply curiousity. Maybe it's just me, but I was wanting more than curiousity or "because I can" as reasons why David set everything in motion.
I actually enjoyed a great deal of the movie and thought that it was well done, but I still find it hard to understand David.
This post was edited on 12/3/12 at 10:50 am
Posted on 12/3/12 at 11:08 am to EarthwormJim
I don't get why his actions don't make sense. 
He was obviously there for the main purpose of finding out WTF was going on there in hopes of helping out the sick Weyland. Once he actually found shite, he experimented on the crew because none of them were important as figuring out what the engineers were all about.
David's actions pretty much made sense once you realized that Weyland was still alive and on the ship (and what his goal was).
He was obviously there for the main purpose of finding out WTF was going on there in hopes of helping out the sick Weyland. Once he actually found shite, he experimented on the crew because none of them were important as figuring out what the engineers were all about.
David's actions pretty much made sense once you realized that Weyland was still alive and on the ship (and what his goal was).
Posted on 12/3/12 at 11:16 am to CocomoLSU
quote:
I don't get why his actions don't make sense.
He was obviously there for the main purpose of finding out WTF was going on there in hopes of helping out the sick Weyland. Once he actually found shite, he experimented on the crew because none of them were important as figuring out what the engineers were all about.
David's actions pretty much made sense once you realized that Weyland was still alive and on the ship (and what his goal was
I guess they made sense if you assume David was just experimenting on everything to find a way to keep Weyland alive.
Personally I just don't like that explaination and find it hard to accept that the logical robot guy would just be going willy nilly with experiments.
Posted on 12/3/12 at 11:34 am to EarthwormJim
Not just to keep him alive, but just to see what all the "cool alien shite on a faraway planet" was about. And he was allowed to experiment with what he found. If he goes into that knowing that the crew is expendable then it's no thing to drop some black alien goo into someone's drink and let hilarity ensue. Not to mention that once he did that, he got an unexpected result with that chick getting pregnant, which allows him more experimentation.
Keeping Weyland alive was, I'd say, his "main" focus, which is why he explored places alone and went into the whole "waking the engineer" thing. All the rest of the shite he did was in the best interest of science IMO.
Keeping Weyland alive was, I'd say, his "main" focus, which is why he explored places alone and went into the whole "waking the engineer" thing. All the rest of the shite he did was in the best interest of science IMO.
Posted on 12/3/12 at 12:30 pm to EarthwormJim
Deacon
Main article: Prometheus (film)
Ridley Scott's 2012 film Prometheus, originally conceived as a direct prequel to Alien,[45] ends with the birth of a creature noted[46] for its similarity to those in the Alien franchise. Scott christened the creature the "Deacon" in reference to its oblong head, which resembles a bishop's mitre.[47] Designer Neal Scanlan said that the Deacon's appearance had to reflect its complex genetic heritage: "It came from Shaw and Holloway, which then produced the Trilobite, which impregnated the Engineer, which then mixed its DNA with the Trilobite. We tried to hold on to some of Shaw, some femininity since it was born of a female before being born of a male." According to Scanlan, the Deacon "represented the beginning of Giger's Alien, although it did not directly resemble that creature."[48] The designers based the Deacon's skin on horse placenta, in an effort to give it an iridescent quality "between horrific and beautiful".[49] Its pharyngeal jaw was inspired by that of the goblin shark.[50]
When discussing the film's connection to Alien, co-writer Damon Lindelof asked: "Do you need to see a xenomorph bursting out of the human body? And how do we do it in a way that you haven't seen before?"[51] Lindelof stated that whether the creature is a queen Alien, or the progenitor of the eggs found by the crew in the original Alien, is open to interpretation, but said, "I felt that the punchline of Prometheus was going to be that there is human DNA in what we have come to know as the human xenomorph."[52]
Main article: Prometheus (film)
Ridley Scott's 2012 film Prometheus, originally conceived as a direct prequel to Alien,[45] ends with the birth of a creature noted[46] for its similarity to those in the Alien franchise. Scott christened the creature the "Deacon" in reference to its oblong head, which resembles a bishop's mitre.[47] Designer Neal Scanlan said that the Deacon's appearance had to reflect its complex genetic heritage: "It came from Shaw and Holloway, which then produced the Trilobite, which impregnated the Engineer, which then mixed its DNA with the Trilobite. We tried to hold on to some of Shaw, some femininity since it was born of a female before being born of a male." According to Scanlan, the Deacon "represented the beginning of Giger's Alien, although it did not directly resemble that creature."[48] The designers based the Deacon's skin on horse placenta, in an effort to give it an iridescent quality "between horrific and beautiful".[49] Its pharyngeal jaw was inspired by that of the goblin shark.[50]
When discussing the film's connection to Alien, co-writer Damon Lindelof asked: "Do you need to see a xenomorph bursting out of the human body? And how do we do it in a way that you haven't seen before?"[51] Lindelof stated that whether the creature is a queen Alien, or the progenitor of the eggs found by the crew in the original Alien, is open to interpretation, but said, "I felt that the punchline of Prometheus was going to be that there is human DNA in what we have come to know as the human xenomorph."[52]
Posted on 12/3/12 at 1:00 pm to CocomoLSU
quote:
Not just to keep him alive, but just to see what all the "cool alien shite on a faraway planet" was about. And he was allowed to experiment with what he found. If he goes into that knowing that the crew is expendable then it's no thing to drop some black alien goo into someone's drink and let hilarity ensue. Not to mention that once he did that, he got an unexpected result with that chick getting pregnant, which allows him more experimentation.
Keeping Weyland alive was, I'd say, his "main" focus, which is why he explored places alone and went into the whole "waking the engineer" thing. All the rest of the shite he did was in the best interest of science IMO.
Yeah, I get that that could be viewed as his motivation. I just found it strange that a supposed logical robot's method of experimentation is drop some goo into a guy's drink.
I still think the movie was good, just could have done a better job of explaining David's actions.
Posted on 12/3/12 at 1:13 pm to EarthwormJim
The best of the movie was David, including that fact that his thought processes and motivations were not explained very much. How self aware is he? Does he enjoy the movie or is he just trying to imitate humans as part of his imperative? Does he care what happens to any of them? To the old man? Was it curiosity or orders that drove him? Etc. they can explore these things in the next movies. If all were answered already it would have taken from the movie.
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