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mograyback
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National Socialism vs Marxist Socialism


I see a lot of conservatives complaining about this socialist spiral we're going down thanks to Obama.

I'd just like to inject a little bit into this notion.

Let's go back in time for a second. Prescott Bush is found guilty of being a financial frontman for the Nazis (no no, this is true). All of Bush's assets were seized in 1942 under the Trading with the Enemy Act. He was smart enough to start the ever popular USO in 1941 when investigations into his Nazi ties heated up. Smart man, it greatly changed how he was punished.

End of WW11 these Nazi connections don't stop. It's uncontested that we did in fact bring thousands of Nazi's to the U.S after the war and white washed their past and placed some in incredibly important positions in our government (primarily places like our CIA).

This is the roots for neo-convservativism or more accurately national socialism.

In short, George Bush and his son are a brand of national socialists.

The U.N Agenda 21, look it up. It calls for no private property. This was built by the first George Bush.

No Child Left Behind, that is a socialist program. G.W Bush made this one.

W. without out a doubt grew corporate and government power, and did in fact grow social welfare.

The neo-cons are without a doubt national socialists.

While Obama is without a doubt of the Marxist variety.

Both political parties are growing government, empowering corporations and banks. The worst part of it all, is they're empowering the marriage between the three. Government, corporations, and banks are all on their own team. It's the unaware masses that allow this to happen.







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cigsmcgee
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It's uncontested that we did in fact bring thousands of Nazi's to the U.S after the war and white washed their past and placed some in incredibly important positions in our government (primarily places like our CIA).


so much "interesting" things going on here, but for this little portion those white-washed nazis were mainly scientists that the russians would have stolen anyway. Operation Paperclip, which is what youre referring to, is one of the main reasons we landed on the moon.






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kingbob
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You do realize that 99% of this board hates George W Bush and the establishment Republicans (aka Neo-Cons). Even the conservatives and proud GOP'ers hate them almost as much as they hate Obama. NO ONE here defends the establishment.





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TrueTiger
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Yes doc the patient is full of collectivist cancer. Gonna have to hack off some limbs to save it.





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mograyback
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NO ONE here defends the establishment.



I get that..

I just find it funny so many conservatives throw around the word 'socialist' and don't really understand it's various forms. They only think of Marxist socialism and not National socialism.







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mograyback
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so much "interesting" things going on here, but for this little portion those white-washed nazis were mainly scientists that the russians would have stolen anyway. Operation Paperclip, which is what youre referring to, is one of the main reasons we landed on the moon.


Yep, that is definitely true, we took scientists that the Russians undoubtably would have.. but we also took sleazy lawyers and all types of these national socialists and integrated them into all fabrics of our government.



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MFn GIMP
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Even the conservatives and proud GOP'ers hate them almost as much as they hate Obama. NO ONE here defends the establishment.


Yep. Even though I supported Romney I hate most of the GOP establishment.






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Paluka
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I will never defend Bush. He had a chance to do some really good things for our country. Instead, he grew the government and the deficit, and infringed on our liberty in the name of security.

Now Obama is growing the deficit and the government as well as selectively applying certain laws. Our liberties are threatened even more.

It's time for leadership and responsible financial management of the government. I don't hate Obama. However, hard decisions need to be made and I don't believe he'll take the lead. I wish he would.






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RCDfan1950
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Pretty much agree, Mo. The strength of our (former) Republic was in the may ways that various societal problems were addressed. Some of the States 'solutions'...create more problems than they solve.

The Founding Fathers had it right...LIMIT the Fed power to the defense of our freedom to let the locals decide their fate.

You can label this current Progressive Ideological bunch whatever you want - neo-cons included - but one thing is for sure...top down Centralized power is their goal. And power corrupts. But it looks like enough of an electoral base has bought in, for what they can get...so...either the electoral process ('mob rule') is rejected and IGNORED by the minority, through various means...or the Statist model assumes dictatorial power.

Interesting.



I hope the Dawgs win...might hurt Saban's recruiting power down here in the Boot.






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LSURussian
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I can't take anyone seriously who tries to make a political statement by saying Jesse Ventura is not an actor.

Or who believes Lincoln and Kennedy were both assasinated because the Federal Reserve didn't like them, especially since the Federal Reserve didn't even exist when Lincoln was president.






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Zach
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I just find it funny so many conservatives throw around the word 'socialist' and don't really understand it's various forms.

I hate all of its forms.






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