re: Dan Patrick Rips Miles

No. It was just Alleva giving into the situation instead of being a man and holding his ground.

You don't just fold and throw out numbers for a raise just because there is preliminary interest from another school.

You have no idea how the talks went down. It could have just been two friends talking about who the next coach would be, then Long slips in something like, "how much would it take to get you to come here?" ... shite gets leaked and boom, you have a story.

Media works in weird ways

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No. It was just Alleva giving into the situation instead of being a man and holding his ground. You don't just fold and throw out numbers for a raise just because there is preliminary interest from another school. You have no idea how the talks went down. It could have just been two friends talking about who the next coach would be, then Long slips in something like, "how much would it take to get you to come here?" ... shite gets leaked and boom, you have a story. Media works in weird ways

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This makes no sense. On the one hand, you seem to think the Arkansas thing seriously affected the negotiation. But then you seem to think the amount was just randomly decided by Alleva and Miles. Negotiations were under way between Miles and LSU well before the Arkansas matter arose. The raise might have already been largely agreed to for all we know before Arkansas came up. All we can tell for certain is that the timing of the negotiations changed, but there is precious little to suggest that the amount or extension were seriously impacted by the Arkansas discussion. You seem to acknowledge that none of us know exactly what occurred. I agree. But I see no reason why Alleva wouldn't have given a raise. It is well-earned; it is normal (given no raise for 5 previous years and the success in between now and the last raise). The amount is certainly reasonable. I doubt that Alleva folded because of Arkansas. He knew it wasn't serious from the beginning, undoubtedly, as virtually everyone else did.

But as you note, we don't know exactl;y what happened. So why all the speculation and rancor? What we know is that he got a raise in a reasonable amount that in all likelihood he would have gotten without the Arkansas discussion. The only real impact seems to be the timing. Normally the announcement would have been made after the bowl game. But because of the speculation and buzz, the announcement was made to quell all of this quickly to prevent more damage and possible negative effects (such as recruiting).

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Negotiations were under way between Miles and LSU well before the Arkansas matter arose.

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So how does not even make it more likely Miles used the Arkansas offer to his advantage? If he knew it was time to talk numbers, hwy not try and increase the numbers by leaking an overblown offer from Arkansas as a ceiling figure.

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Then Arkansas had nothing to do with his raise did it?

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Probably not, since they didn't offer most likely. His agent played the system.

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So how does not even make it more likely Miles used the Arkansas offer to his advantage? If he knew it was time to talk numbers, hwy not try and increase the numbers by leaking an overblown offer from Arkansas as a ceiling figure.

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Because the amount seems to indicate that Arkansas wasn't a huge factor. If it was serious factor, why not a much larger raise. Alleva knew it wasn't serious. Why would it have a dramatic impact?

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Given Miles' history, why isn't it just as possible that he walked in, said my friend from Arky called and talked about offering me a position. What can we do to prevent the rumor mill from gettin out of hand?

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Not to mention the fact that only a moron would do what the other poster wrote: "miles said here is what arkansas offered, give me more or i walk." This shows a less-than-grade school comprehension of how these matters unfold.

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Yeah, poor people problems.
Or stupid people's, which ever

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go root for Tulane....i bet their tickets are real cheap

These issues played out in a very public manner, and both Miles and LSU knew the prominent coverage being given the Arkansas interest.
Both parties would have been better served, if there were previous negotiations, to delay the conclsuion of a deal by a couple of weeks to avoid the appearances of impropriety.
That is,unless the Arky interest in FACT played a significant role.
That's why all these posts/ threads have dominated the boards for the last two days.

The timing is not coincidence, no matter how much The Tards want to believe otherwise.
To fail to consider the apprearances of this is just too stupid to believe...
I lsot respect for both Miles and Alleva as a result.