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re: Dan Patrick Rips Miles

Posted on 11/29/12 at 8:50 am to
Posted by Topwater Trout
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Posted on 11/29/12 at 8:50 am to
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Couldn't have ever gotten too serious since Miles got less money than the purported offer and only a "routine" extension of his contract with LSU of 2 additional years.


So you believe a raise would have been made yesterday without the Arkansas crap?

I am not saying he wouldn't have recieved a raise but I think it would have been after the bowl game. Alleva/LSU is saving face by saying he was getting a raise IMO. Didn't want to look like they were pressured into doing so.
Posted by GABlueDog
Marietta, GA
Member since Dec 2008
8045 posts
Posted on 11/29/12 at 8:50 am to
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speculation and here say

C'mon. You're a reasonable and intelligent man.

Sometimes.



Posted by rbdallas
Dallas, TX
Member since Nov 2007
10340 posts
Posted on 11/29/12 at 8:51 am to
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Miles did nothing immoral


Morality has nothing to do with this...PROFESSIONALISM and CHARACTER does.
Posted by Topwater Trout
Red Stick
Member since Oct 2010
67589 posts
Posted on 11/29/12 at 8:51 am to
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Like the Petrino and auburn stuff a while back


That was classic! I am glad we aren't Auburn
Posted by tigerinridgeland
Mississippi
Member since Aug 2006
7635 posts
Posted on 11/29/12 at 8:52 am to
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Call it however you want it but the fact is Les' agent trolled Arkansas and LSU and Les was fine with it.


Please provide proof. You assume Miles' agent contacted Arkansas. And you know this because...? On the other hand, we do know that Long and Miles are longtime friends snd Arkansas is looking. We also know, at least based on what has been reported, that Miles's contract is in line with what would have resulted from ongoing discussions with LSU regardless. So there really isn't any basis for your speculation and accusation. Who knows, you might be right, but as of now, there is absolutelynno reason to think so.
Posted by BeeFense5
Kenner
Member since Jul 2010
41291 posts
Posted on 11/29/12 at 8:52 am to
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Alleva/LSU is saving face by saying he was getting a raise IMO.


I'm on record as being ok with the raise but I definitely agree with this. There might have been preliminary raise talks but I think Alleva hopped to when it came to this Arkansas talk and immediately gave the raise.
Posted by Choctaw
Pumpin' Sunshine
Member since Jul 2007
77774 posts
Posted on 11/29/12 at 8:52 am to
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these talks are behind close doors


exactly...therefore you have no idea what was or wasn't said. maybe Miles did ask for secrecy. but yet again...y'all just assume its Miles fault.

Miles got a job offer
The AD was a friend so he had a talk with him to tell him he wasn't interested.
Alleva figured they might as well move up the raise and extension.

These are facts. I don't see anything wrong with any of it. All the rest of y'alls bullshite is just that....bullshite
Posted by Langston
Member since Nov 2010
7685 posts
Posted on 11/29/12 at 8:52 am to
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Alleva/LSU is saving face by saying he was getting a raise IMO. Didn't want to look like they were pressured into doing so.


I agree
Posted by guedeaux
Tardis
Member since Jan 2008
13609 posts
Posted on 11/29/12 at 8:53 am to
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So there really isn't any basis for your speculation and accusation.


Like that has ever stopped the Rant before hahaha

Posted by Choctaw
Pumpin' Sunshine
Member since Jul 2007
77774 posts
Posted on 11/29/12 at 8:55 am to
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Morality has nothing to do with this...


i was talking to broke

quote:

PROFESSIONALISM and CHARACTER does.


and he did nothing unprofessional...and i'm not even going to address the character part.

if you can provide proof otherwise besides making baseless accusations i'm all ears.
Posted by Topwater Trout
Red Stick
Member since Oct 2010
67589 posts
Posted on 11/29/12 at 8:56 am to
I have no problem with the actual raise...just the way it went down. I blame the agent though not Miles.
Posted by Jon Bovi
South Louisiana
Member since Sep 2012
142 posts
Posted on 11/29/12 at 8:56 am to
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LSU should tell Miles if this happens again, they will fire him on the spot and bring someone else in to coach LSU.


I agree with this. DP is actually correct on this one
Posted by tigerinridgeland
Mississippi
Member since Aug 2006
7635 posts
Posted on 11/29/12 at 8:56 am to
The announcement and the negotiations were sped up, which makes sense once rumors started spreading. But the outcome is the same. Do you really think LSU would not have given a raise to a coach who hadn't had a raise since 2007, and in the meantime won an SEC championship and got his team to the BCSCG?
Posted by rbdallas
Dallas, TX
Member since Nov 2007
10340 posts
Posted on 11/29/12 at 8:57 am to
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exactly...therefore you have no idea what was or wasn't said. maybe Miles did ask for secrecy. but yet again...y'all just assume its Miles fault.


I am not assuming crap....regardless of who began the talk..
Miles could have insisted in non-disclosure agreement -it is a LEGAL and BINDING concept...he chose to not do so.

It is what it is ...lack of professionalism


quote:

I agree with this. DP is actually correct on this one


he made this play w/Michigan, the only diff is (if I understand it right) his contract gives him that right...

the TIMING of that was also very unprofessional.

Coaches with character do not disclose this items while still in the BOWL PICTURE...end of story.


This post was edited on 11/29/12 at 9:00 am
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
39097 posts
Posted on 11/29/12 at 8:58 am to
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StormTiger


quote:

yeah, because Dan Patrick has never left his post before, haha. What a doucher comment.


No reason to read any further. This is the perfect riposte.
Posted by Tyger1919
Pineville
Member since Sep 2009
1020 posts
Posted on 11/29/12 at 8:59 am to
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Call it however you want it but the fact is Les' agent trolled Arkansas and LSU and Les was fine with it.


This. Miles never considered leaving and should have told Arkansas that, he most likely did, no problem there. But then he used them to get a raise from LSU. You should only get a raise for winning a BCSNC or SEC. Yes he one the SEC last year but I think he lost that raise with that BCS proformance. Coudld LSU give him a pay cut when he has a down year? Alleva should have called his bluff.
Posted by Topwater Trout
Red Stick
Member since Oct 2010
67589 posts
Posted on 11/29/12 at 9:00 am to
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Do you really think LSU would not have given a raise to a coach who hadn't had a raise since 2007, and in the meantime won an SEC championship and got his team to the BCSCG?


No. My problem isn't the raise its the circumstances and appearance of how it went down. But I am over it It's a new day.
Posted by Choctaw
Pumpin' Sunshine
Member since Jul 2007
77774 posts
Posted on 11/29/12 at 9:00 am to
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Miles could have insisted in non-disclosure agreement -it is a LEGAL and BINDING concept...he chose to not do so.


like i said. you have no idea what happened. news leaks all the time. and in the grand scheme...its not even a big deal that it leaked. it was over in 2 days. but i guess we have to find something to blame on Miles, right? no matter how baseless the claim is.
Posted by Choctaw
Pumpin' Sunshine
Member since Jul 2007
77774 posts
Posted on 11/29/12 at 9:02 am to
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But then he used them to get a raise from LSU. You should only get a raise for winning a BCSNC or SEC. Yes he one the SEC last year but I think he lost that raise with that BCS proformance.


This post was edited on 11/29/12 at 9:03 am
Posted by tigerinridgeland
Mississippi
Member since Aug 2006
7635 posts
Posted on 11/29/12 at 9:02 am to
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Miles could have insisted in non-disclosure agreement -it is a LEGAL and BINDING concept...he chose to not do so.


And to what end. Most likely there was at least an informal understanding, but these agreements aren't worth the paper they are written on. Do you know who leaked the info? And what damages could you prove? Sorry, but the idea of a nondisclosure contract in these circumstances is just silly.
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