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re: It's time to ban dog deer hunting
Posted on 11/26/12 at 7:57 pm to DownshiftAndFloorIt
Posted on 11/26/12 at 7:57 pm to DownshiftAndFloorIt
Fair enough, I get that you have a different set up where you hunt and I respect your right to hunt with dogs. Some of your fellow dog hunters give the sport a bad name and I just happen to see it first hand.
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Posted on 11/26/12 at 7:58 pm to DownshiftAndFloorIt
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You most definitely said you "hate people running dogs"
Yeah, specifically the people running dogs around my place.
If they stayed on their place, I'd love them.
Again, I don't hate the type of hunting. I hate the people running dogs across my property.
Posted on 11/26/12 at 7:59 pm to DownshiftAndFloorIt
Like I said when done right its fun and doesn't harm a thing but its getting harder and harder to do correctly where I live cause people don't work together anymore to many people have to act like billy badass and have a measuring contest. But the lease I'm on and most lease in our area are not nearly big enough to do it on. I've tried getting together with neiboring leases and having a weekend we all get together and do it but that's tough to pull off also and the national forest here banned it last year. I hope to find a place to take my son when he gets older cause I have many great memories as a kid going. So when the time is right I hope to be able to take him somewhere but ill do all I can to be responsible with it. It only takes a few to ruin a good thing
Posted on 11/26/12 at 8:02 pm to tigertalkster
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the national forest here banned it last year.
Kisatchie? You are probably the son of a bitch I'm talking about...
Posted on 11/26/12 at 8:06 pm to tigertalkster
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It only takes a few to ruin a good thing
Tell me about it
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I've tried getting together with neiboring leases and having a weekend we all get together and do it but that's tough to pull off
Seems like everybody would jump all over that
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So when the time is right I hope to be able to take him somewhere
I doubt you'll get to do that if your kid is young.
It's just a result of hunting becoming so popular that there's actually competition for hunting land.
Posted on 11/26/12 at 8:10 pm to DownshiftAndFloorIt
Live and let live. Animal rights activist love it when we do their bidding for them. If you have trouble with your neighbors deal with them properly and don't condemn a whole group of ethical hunters for the actions of several scumbags.
Posted on 11/26/12 at 8:11 pm to DownshiftAndFloorIt
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It's just a result of hunting becoming so popular that there's actually competition for hunting land.
That's right and the biggest problem. There are more people now, the internet spreads word like wildfire, and everything is leased.
To come clean, my grandparents and family ran dogs around the South end of Toledo Bend for years and years. I've been on numerous dog hunts. I liked it. I just have common sense and understand how private property owners feel because I am one. Now everything around there is leased... and I don't dog hunt anymore.
I've been on both sides, I don't like it because you can't do it from a logistics standpoint.
Posted on 11/26/12 at 8:14 pm to Clyde Tipton
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I don't like it because you can't do it from a logistics standpoint
It definitely can still be done, just maybe not where you hunt.
Posted on 11/26/12 at 8:14 pm to Langston
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I'm not a huge fan of dog hunting but I would be more than willing to bet most complaining don't have the balls to handle it like witz whatever his Name is And I bet most have been too chicken shite to confront the people doing it.
I also have major issues with banning stuff. That's a chicken shite way of dealing with it.
So it is the property owner's fault somehow for not "manning up" and handling it ourselves? So basically law abiding people who don't feel like getting into a shootout over a deer are the problem and the trespassers are the good guys who should be able to hunt where they want until someone forces them off.
I confronted them yesterday and they drove off. They will be back all week now that I have to go home and do this thing they have never heard of called "work."
Posted on 11/26/12 at 8:14 pm to Clyde Tipton
No going to read all of this but I'll share my thoughts on this...
I am not a dog hunter, have had issues with dog hunters in the past. However IMO dog hunting SHOULD be allowed. The reason I say this is the anti's are looking for any way to stop hunting. All they need to see is hunters arguing with each other with what is legal and what isn't, what is ethical and what isn't. There is a lot of tradition in dog hunting, most of it is not bad at all. I say keep it and keep hunters united together against the antis.
I am not a dog hunter, have had issues with dog hunters in the past. However IMO dog hunting SHOULD be allowed. The reason I say this is the anti's are looking for any way to stop hunting. All they need to see is hunters arguing with each other with what is legal and what isn't, what is ethical and what isn't. There is a lot of tradition in dog hunting, most of it is not bad at all. I say keep it and keep hunters united together against the antis.
Posted on 11/26/12 at 8:17 pm to ZacAttack
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But while we're at it I would like to ban corn, food plots and guns for hunting. Let's go to nothing but stalking with bows, knives and spears. That would really be hunting and make for some quiet woods.
You are really missing the point. No one is complaining about dog hunters gaining some unfair advantage over the deer. We are complaining about trespassing and messing up the hunting of law abiding property owners.
Posted on 11/26/12 at 8:19 pm to Monticello
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They will be back all week now that I have to go home
You can't worry about that. I've lost a lot of sleep because I don't live on the property I hunt.
I just try to get after the deer early in the season and hang it up once dog season starts. The deer that cross my property definitly go nocturnal once it starts, and I have a scientific game camera study that proves it.
Time to start duck hunting...
Posted on 11/26/12 at 8:19 pm to Da Hammer
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It's time to ban dog deer hunting
No going to read all of this but I'll share my thoughts on this...
I am not a dog hunter, have had issues with dog hunters in the past. However IMO dog hunting SHOULD be allowed. The reason I say this is the anti's are looking for any way to stop hunting. All they need to see is hunters arguing with each other with what is legal and what isn't, what is ethical and what isn't. There is a lot of tradition in dog hunting, most of it is not bad at all. I say keep it and keep hunters united together against the antis.
Posted on 11/26/12 at 8:19 pm to Monticello
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So it is the property owner's fault somehow for not "manning up" and handling it ourselves? So basically law abiding people who don't feel like getting into a shootout over a deer are the problem and the trespassers are the good guys who should be able to hunt where they want until someone forces them off.
You're putting words in his keyboard and reaching.
Nowhere did he say you should just bend over and take it up the arse. He said it should be able to be dealt with without involving anybody outside of the parties having issues.
Posted on 11/26/12 at 8:20 pm to Clyde Tipton
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I have a scientific game camera study that proves it
I'd like to see it
Posted on 11/26/12 at 8:20 pm to Monticello
And you think banning dog hunting is going to end trespassing?
Posted on 11/26/12 at 8:22 pm to bushwacker
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like i said downshift, you do it correctly and are in the minority. the ones i have hunted with and seen in action give dog hunters a bad name.
We have switched to beagles to keep the big hounds from leaving our 2000 acres.
As was stated earlier, if you know they are running dogs, why not just get on an opening and wait? I've seen lots of deer moving when the dogs were running another one.
Posted on 11/26/12 at 8:22 pm to Monticello
Your issue isn't with dog hunters but with trespassers who happen to hunt using dogs. If these guys were coming on your property and shooting deer with bows would you want to outlaw archery? If they were cutting your timber would you want to outlaw fireplaces?
Posted on 11/26/12 at 8:24 pm to WmWallace
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If I can prove your dogs are on my land shouldn't that be enough for you to have the balls as a man to look me in the eye and apologize and make an effort not to have it happen again.
This is what pisses me off so much. In 20 years of hunting and dealing with dog hunters I have never once had one apologize to me. Every time it is "well we just can't control where the dogs want to go." A true mistake I understand, but 99.9% of the time they are on my land because either they wanted them on my land or they don't give a shite if they go on my land. I think dog hunters have repeated that line so many times that they actually believe it to be true.
Posted on 11/26/12 at 8:25 pm to Monticello
This shite is still going!
I don't have a "dog" in this fight because I have no experience with dog hunters at all. I've never done it or been affected by it.
I don't have a "dog" in this fight because I have no experience with dog hunters at all. I've never done it or been affected by it.
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