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4 of us, All LSU Alums, Could not agree on our Offense...
Posted on 11/26/12 at 5:13 pm
Posted on 11/26/12 at 5:13 pm
I had 3 other LSU Alums over my house Friday to watch the game and BBQ.
After the game and many many beers later we were dead locked on our offense on if we should stand pat with Studs & Krags or blow it up and start over with a new OC.
2 votes for staying the same -
Next year will be Metts final season and why give him a new system to learn. Plus Krags has relationships with our new QB recruits and a change could kill the commits.
2 votes to Change next year -
These ultra spread, read option offenses are here to stay for a while and the argument is that we may be left behind if we stay pat . Other SEC teams are getting stronger and we will have to be better fast.
I voted to stay with the Pro Style Offense with the thought that Chavis & Co. are going to have to really go after fast and well conditioned DB's to defend these offenses and that could still deal with heavy run teams like Bama and Florida. ( Like Brazil)
The only real agreement seemed to be that we are going to have to get the "Best of The Best" defensive players in the future to deal with both styles of play in the new SEC.
Thoughts ?
After the game and many many beers later we were dead locked on our offense on if we should stand pat with Studs & Krags or blow it up and start over with a new OC.
2 votes for staying the same -
Next year will be Metts final season and why give him a new system to learn. Plus Krags has relationships with our new QB recruits and a change could kill the commits.
2 votes to Change next year -
These ultra spread, read option offenses are here to stay for a while and the argument is that we may be left behind if we stay pat . Other SEC teams are getting stronger and we will have to be better fast.
I voted to stay with the Pro Style Offense with the thought that Chavis & Co. are going to have to really go after fast and well conditioned DB's to defend these offenses and that could still deal with heavy run teams like Bama and Florida. ( Like Brazil)
The only real agreement seemed to be that we are going to have to get the "Best of The Best" defensive players in the future to deal with both styles of play in the new SEC.
Thoughts ?
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Posted on 11/26/12 at 5:15 pm to bopper50
There was definite improvement in the offense this year. I'm not as opposed to keeping Stud as I was after the Florida game. I just seems risky to change it up and try to install a new offense when it seems that Mett is pretty comfortable running the offense we have now and its been productive.
Posted on 11/26/12 at 5:15 pm to bopper50
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The only real agreement seemed to be that we are going to have to get the "Best of The Best" defensive players in the future to deal with both styles of play in the new SEC.
That's a pretty new and innovative thought. You should email Les that.
Posted on 11/26/12 at 5:15 pm to bopper50
Power running with a Pro style passing games FTW.
Pretty much like this year, but with a better Met, better OL and better receivers next year.
Pretty much like this year, but with a better Met, better OL and better receivers next year.
Posted on 11/26/12 at 5:19 pm to bopper50
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These ultra spread, read option offenses are here to stay for a while and the argument is that we may be left behind if we stay pat . Other SEC teams are getting stronger and we will have to be better fast.
Everything goes in cycles. The wishbone was here to stay at one time too.
Posted on 11/26/12 at 5:21 pm to bopper50
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These ultra spread, read option offenses are here to stay for a while and the argument is that we may be left behind if we stay pat . Other SEC teams are getting stronger and we will have to be better fast.
Anyone thinking we should switch to this with our current qbs is a fricking moron.
I dont know if you guys noticed, but this stud mett offense is completey diff than the crowton jefferson offense.
This post was edited on 11/26/12 at 5:26 pm
Posted on 11/26/12 at 5:22 pm to Meauxjeaux
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Pretty much like this year, but with a better Met, better OL and better receivers next year
With HUGE emphasis on better OL. I believe if our OL showed up for the NCG and for 90% of our games this year, we're not having a debate about the offense.
Posted on 11/26/12 at 5:24 pm to bopper50
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The only real agreement seemed to be that we are going to have to get the "Best of The Best" defensive players in the future to deal with both styles of play in the new SEC.
Thoughts ?
This also will never happen. I mean shite the best defender in the country will prob be playing for ole miss next year. Majority of teams we recruit against have great talent on d and all of them put players in the nfl.
Posted on 11/26/12 at 5:24 pm to bopper50
That ultra fast offense really made Bama and Georgia nearly unbeatable this year.
Oh wait. Pro style.
Oh wait. Pro style.
Posted on 11/26/12 at 5:27 pm to The Eric
Yeap both run the football very well and play d.
Posted on 11/26/12 at 5:35 pm to bopper50
I think if Mett will be our QB, this is the best offense we could be running. Less predictable play calls and less dumb assed decisions would be good though.
Posted on 11/26/12 at 5:44 pm to alajones
problem with us going to the spread, we havent recruited for that. Randall would be ur qb, but with 230lb rbs we arent going to look like oregon or tamu. Also we have road graders on the oline, those dudes arent going to be able to do the same things an under 300lb guy can do. Like block our 300lb dts.
Posted on 11/26/12 at 5:44 pm to bopper50
I'm more concerned with the D, especially next year, than the offense.
Posted on 11/26/12 at 5:45 pm to bopper50
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we are going to have to get the "Best of The Best" defensive players in the future to deal with both styles of play in the new SEC.
Good point. All those LSU defensive players that were 1st round draft picks the past few years (as well as the next few) aren't going to cut it in the "New SEC". We need to focus on recruiting 17 and 18 year old kids that are sure fire NFL Hall of Famers the day they set foot on campus.
Posted on 11/26/12 at 5:46 pm to Mudminnow
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I'm more concerned with the D
when haven't you been concerned about the D
Posted on 11/26/12 at 6:42 pm to dgnx6
Why not change if it will be better. Look at all the frshman QBs kicking arse--it was their first year in the system. Oregon QB, Manziel (RF), and a couple others.
We do not have to change much, just run some better routs and mix it better. We have awhole year to learn it. We won in 2007 with a first year offense and Sr. QB like Met.
Look at our off stats the past 5 years!! Scary but you people accept that and scared of change. Think of it as CEO of a company-do you keep taking losses? No- you would be canned, unless you are UL Monroe
We do not have to change much, just run some better routs and mix it better. We have awhole year to learn it. We won in 2007 with a first year offense and Sr. QB like Met.
Look at our off stats the past 5 years!! Scary but you people accept that and scared of change. Think of it as CEO of a company-do you keep taking losses? No- you would be canned, unless you are UL Monroe
Posted on 11/26/12 at 7:08 pm to Dubaitiger
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Why not change if it will be better. Look at all the frshman QBs kicking arse--it was their first year in the system. Oregon QB, Manziel (RF), and a couple others.
Good point here.
Posted on 11/26/12 at 7:13 pm to bopper50
3 yds and a pile of dust never gets old or out dated! Run baby Run 
Posted on 11/26/12 at 7:16 pm to Dubaitiger
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Think of it as CEO of a company-do you keep taking losses? No- you would be canned
based on this analogy LSU is Exxon...
Posted on 11/26/12 at 7:51 pm to bopper50
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These ultra spread, read option offenses are here to stay for a while and the argument is that we may be left behind if we stay pat
all teams play some of this, including us. but, the FACT is that the BEST TEAMS IN THE COUNTRY do not use the spread as their main offense. stanford? notre dame? even the newbie great teams don't. alabama? lsu? georgia? florida? face it, the video boys may want the spread but the professionals know to win it all you need an arse kicking defense and a pro style offense; an offense that can control the clock and wear down a defense. you still need a passing game tho and that has not changed since the forward pass was invented.
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