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re: Overall just very disappointed with the lack of creativity on offense
Posted on 11/26/12 at 12:36 pm to golf teaching pro
Posted on 11/26/12 at 12:36 pm to golf teaching pro
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"wow brilliant play call!"
Texas A&M game fourth down conversion Spencer ware pitch to Michael ford.
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Posted on 11/26/12 at 12:38 pm to golf teaching pro
Did you watch the Alabama game?
I admit that our offense looked boring against Arky and Ole Piss.
To be honest, our D didn't impress me this season.
I admit that our offense looked boring against Arky and Ole Piss.
To be honest, our D didn't impress me this season.
Posted on 11/26/12 at 12:38 pm to EarthwormJim
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I'm going to guess it had to do with being able to protect the QB
Agreed that was part of it, but the playcalling at the beginning of the year didnt help them any either. RB screens would have done us a lot of good at that point of the season but were pretty much non existent.
Posted on 11/26/12 at 12:40 pm to golf teaching pro
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Not a Nega tiger. Just because you yell at your kids doesn't mean you hate them. Florida went out and made a great hire at offensive coordinator. They have a lot of different looks offensively. The San Fran 49ers same idea. Our offense is so plain and predictable. We have lost all imagination on our personnel groupings and play calls. Listen if a 7 year old knows what your running 80 percent of the time,
So does the other teams staff.
How did that work out for Florida? 12th in the SEC in total offense and dead last in passing offense. If you don't like LSU's offensive "creativity" then you need to find a new team to root for. As long as Les miles is the head coach, he will try to establish a ball-control power running game that relies on the execution of superior athletes. Creativity tends to open the door for mistakes in execution and penalties. Love or hate Les Miles, you can't argue with the overall success of his philosophy of controlling the ball on offense, limiting turnovers and letting a fresh defense win the game.
Simplicity is the ultimate sophistication.
Leonardo DaVinci
This post was edited on 11/26/12 at 12:41 pm
Posted on 11/26/12 at 12:45 pm to golf teaching pro
Dang sounds like you should be a big time oc somewhere.
Now I'm starting to really see why people hate lsu fans so much.
Now I'm starting to really see why people hate lsu fans so much.
Posted on 11/26/12 at 12:48 pm to Lsu tiger maniac
People just want another championship. I don't think it's a stretch to say if the offense was a tad bit better this year (and possibly last) we would have had/will have another.
The offense bogged down in the SECCG and NCG last year and has stayed there with the exception of a couple of games, which now appear to be an anomaly.
Can anyone honestly say they don't think a slightly more creative offense this year may have won at least one of the games we lost?
The offense bogged down in the SECCG and NCG last year and has stayed there with the exception of a couple of games, which now appear to be an anomaly.
Can anyone honestly say they don't think a slightly more creative offense this year may have won at least one of the games we lost?
This post was edited on 11/26/12 at 12:49 pm
Posted on 11/26/12 at 12:55 pm to EarthwormJim
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Look at the games we played well offensively vs. the game we played sub par. There is one major difference, home vs away.
Yep.
However, the Arky game was our 12th game and a very different team/setting than the Swamp vs UF.
I think it's reasonable to have expected our O to have been a more functional then. On the positive side, we didn't turn the ball over and we got it done in the clutch.
Posted on 11/26/12 at 12:59 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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Can anyone honestly say they don't think a slightly more creative offense this year may have won at least one of the games we lost?
Yes, we didn't lose to Alabama because we didn't have a creative enough offense. And we wouldn't have beat Florida by being more creative. Early in the season we couldn't do the basic things, like protect the QB, catch the ball, make the right reads, catch the ball, etc...
There isn't some magical creative offense that would have eliminated those mistakes. We were a pretty young and inexperienced team at key positions this year, when our offense clicked it was very very good.
Posted on 11/26/12 at 1:02 pm to golf teaching pro
The fake fg, jump pass and warecat wasn't enough creativity for you, brah?
Posted on 11/26/12 at 1:03 pm to EarthwormJim
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Yes, we didn't lose to Alabama because we didn't have a creative enough offense. And we wouldn't have beat Florida by being more creative. Early in the season we couldn't do the basic things, like protect the QB, catch the ball, make the right reads, catch the ball, etc...
There isn't some magical creative offense that would have eliminated those mistakes. We were a pretty young and inexperienced team at key positions this year, when our offense clicked it was very very good.
We only put up 17 points on Bama. People talk about this game like it was an offensive masterpiece, but despite all of the yardage we didn't put up many points because the offense stalled a few times after putting together good drives.
You can blame the defense, but they only gave up 21 points which isn't too bad against the #1 team in the country.
If you're counting on your defense to hold every team to 14 points you're bound to be disappointed eventually, and your offense better be able to pick up the slack when disappointment happens.
Posted on 11/26/12 at 1:03 pm to RogerTheShrubber
I think the conservative offense cost us the Bama game on LSU's last offensive series. That being said, Miles opening up the passing game is what put us in a position to win had we made one more first down.
Posted on 11/26/12 at 1:06 pm to golf teaching pro
I would like to see some play action on third and short. 
Posted on 11/26/12 at 1:08 pm to EarthwormJim
I love this site ! I mean I really do. If i posted the earth is round I wound get 50 people arguing with me! I am not saying we don't have 1 or 2 great play calls a seasons we do but seriously, our offensive is boring and lacks Imagination. How many times a game are the announcers saying brilliant formation or wow that's brilliant! Case in point. Fla against Fla state ran a gate pass from Burton to Burton. Although the play didn't work it was fricking ART! The play was so wide open that the passer couldn't believe it and threw a duck. The last brilliant play I can remember was Wings fake punt and that wasn't called. Before that we had a 4 th down against bama at home 3 years ago where Deangelo Peterson took it almost all the way. I rewound it 15 times! We're missing that surprising brilliant, strategic play calling!
Posted on 11/26/12 at 1:10 pm to nf
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We only put up 17 points on Bama. People talk about this game like it was an offensive masterpiece, but despite all of the yardage we didn't put up many points because the offense stalled a few times after putting together good drives.
Against possibly the best defense this year, they did an incredible job. Of course everyone wishes thet would have scored more points.
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You can blame the defense, but they only gave up 21 points which isn't too bad against the #1 team in the country.
They gave up 6 of those in 90 seconds, gave up more than 6 yards a carry. Our defense played worse than our offense in the second half of the season.
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If you're counting on your defense to hold every team to 14 points you're bound to be disappointed eventually, and your offense better be able to pick up the slack when disappointment happens.
Shouldn't the reverse be true as well. Make no mistake, our offense bailed us out of a couple games this year.
Posted on 11/26/12 at 1:11 pm to golf teaching pro
And for the morons that say stick to golf. I am a. I am a coach I help people play to their potential! And I will tell you what my players get better! They don't play just well enough to beat their buddies, they play to their maximum potential! God had a ceiling for all of us based on athletic ability I push that ceiling!
Posted on 11/26/12 at 1:12 pm to golf teaching pro
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The last brilliant play I can remember was Wings fake punt and that wasn't called. Before that we had a 4 th down against bama at home 3 years ago where Deangelo Peterson took it almost all the way. I rewound it 15 times! We're missing that surprising brilliant, strategic play calling!
So basically you want more trick plays. I don't think you understand what strategic means.
Posted on 11/26/12 at 1:23 pm to LSU82BILL
Love the da Vinci quote. Fla beat us so bad example. I could honestly care less about stats. We are predictable and vanilla. That kind of offense lets inferior teams hand around. See Kentucky 2007 Arkansas 2007. Ark and ole miss this year. Les 's style of football keeps lesser teams In the game with a chance to steal a win. See the clock mgmt debacle in Oxford. When your better than an opponent fricking show it. Out your foot on the kneck and push down
Posted on 11/26/12 at 1:26 pm to TheBob
Now that's a guy who knows something about offense! Our fans are so use to the same 4 plays over and over they can't appreciate art. Watching Oregon play offense is art! I am glad we beat you but your team is fun to watch.
Posted on 11/26/12 at 1:32 pm to golf teaching pro
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golf teaching pro
I fully agree with your sentiments but I don't think your examples fit your argument:
- the '07 games we lost weren't due to O. We scored 27 vs UK and 28 vs Arky in regulation. That should've been enough.
- We scored 41 on OM this year. How many do we have to score?
Ever since '08 Les has taken a very conservative tack to O, i.e., don't turn the ball over and give the opponent an easy score. For the most part we've done just that. And for the most part we've been successful.
What is happening is that there are a couple of teams on our schedule every year (Bama and UF for now) that we are handcuffing ourselves with no value added and even to our detriment.
IMO, if Les continues down this path we'll continue to lose a game or two every year that we could so easily have won and along the way miss out on some championships.
Posted on 11/26/12 at 1:34 pm to EarthwormJim
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Against possibly the best defense this year, they did an incredible job. Of course everyone wishes thet would have scored more points.
Florida has a better defense than Alabama, when you adjust for quality of opponent.
The defense got burned, but that's going to happen sometimes. If the offense didn't consistently put them in a position where they HAD to be perfect to win games that would be ideal. Sure, it's going to happen every now and then, but the inability of the offense to put games away when they were there for the taking is a huge issue because no defense is perfect and you can't keep expecting them to be perfect.
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