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re: Okay, explain to me what the frick just happend/Hou at Det penalty call

Posted on 11/22/12 at 2:15 pm to
Posted by H-Town Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
59062 posts
Posted on 11/22/12 at 2:15 pm to
quote:

so why not give them the penalty and review the play anyway?


you can't answer that. Becuase there is no answer.


The answer is he can't benefit from a penalty. Agree, disagree, that's the rule and Schwartz should know it. There was no hurry, not like he needed to throw the flag to keep them from running another play.
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
115441 posts
Posted on 11/22/12 at 2:15 pm to
I can answer it. To prevent coaches from challenging an auto review play. Pretty easy.
Posted by wildtigercat93
Member since Jul 2011
112210 posts
Posted on 11/22/12 at 2:17 pm to
quote:

2. You can't benefit on a ruling after a penalty called on you.


See this is what I dont get. They would still be penalized if it was reviewed and reversed

Texans ball for a first and 15 yards. The Lions are getting plenty punished for a bad call on the field. They gain no advantage throwing that flag because it was going to reviewed anyway
Posted by TheSexecutioner
Member since Mar 2011
5247 posts
Posted on 11/22/12 at 2:17 pm to
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No one thinks they didn't deserve a penalty

No way should that null a review from the booth. Hell, take a time out, give them 15 yards, but review the damn play


I can get behind that. I think just 15 yards would be fair. I think the current rule is perfectly fair too. As long as the coach knows about it before hand. It just really isn't a rule where the severity is that important because it just should not EVER have to be used.
Posted by fightingtiger2335
heh?
Member since Aug 2007
61157 posts
Posted on 11/22/12 at 2:18 pm to
I don't think anyone is.defending the idiot for not knowing the rule.
I think the question is of you.are reviewing it anyway ,the game isn't being slowed down any extra, so tack on the 15 and review it.
Seems like more time was wasted there than a normal review would take.
Posted by wildtigercat93
Member since Jul 2011
112210 posts
Posted on 11/22/12 at 2:18 pm to
quote:

I can answer it. To prevent coaches from challenging an auto review play. Pretty easy.


The 15 yards will do that just as effectivly, and why is challenging an auot reviewable play such a god damn travesty?
Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
278157 posts
Posted on 11/22/12 at 2:18 pm to
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The answer is he can't benefit from a penalty.


that makes no sense.

how do you benefit from a penalty if they penalize you?
This post was edited on 11/22/12 at 2:19 pm
Posted by Rex
Here, there, and nowhere
Member since Sep 2004
66001 posts
Posted on 11/22/12 at 2:18 pm to
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To prevent coaches from challenging an auto review play.

A truly dumb reason for allowing a touchdown that wasn't.

If it's going to be reviewed, anyway, there is absolutely no harm in ASKING FOR A REVIEW.

It's a dumbfrick rule.
Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
278157 posts
Posted on 11/22/12 at 2:20 pm to
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I can answer it. To prevent coaches from challenging an auto review play. Pretty easy.



that is why the penalty flag was thrown



why can't the refs review it like they are supposed to after the penalty if enforced?

that is the question.
Posted by fightingtiger2335
heh?
Member since Aug 2007
61157 posts
Posted on 11/22/12 at 2:20 pm to
Ya he's.acting as if the red flag is tacking on time to a review already going on
Posted by fightingtiger2335
heh?
Member since Aug 2007
61157 posts
Posted on 11/22/12 at 2:21 pm to
Quit being butthurt
Posted by wildtigercat93
Member since Jul 2011
112210 posts
Posted on 11/22/12 at 2:22 pm to
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Ya he's.acting as if the red flag is tacking on time to a review already going on


Yep, I hate the "it slows down the game" crowd

20 commercial breaks in a quarter slows down the game. throwing a flag does not
Posted by TheSexecutioner
Member since Mar 2011
5247 posts
Posted on 11/22/12 at 2:22 pm to
It just doesn't matter that much. It's not a rule that should ever be used. You people act like the flag fell out of his pocket and could very easily effect the course of other games.

It was the coaching blunder of the century. It is so easy to just not throw the flag when you know the penalty for doing so. It's just unfathomable that he threw it.
Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
278157 posts
Posted on 11/22/12 at 2:22 pm to
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Mike Pereira ?@MikePereira
Just got back from the field. The rule penalizing Schwartz is good. The rule not allowing the play to be reviewed is horrible. Must change
Posted by wildtigercat93
Member since Jul 2011
112210 posts
Posted on 11/22/12 at 2:24 pm to
Thats coming from the biggest :The ref is always right" doucher in the world
Posted by fightingtiger2335
heh?
Member since Aug 2007
61157 posts
Posted on 11/22/12 at 2:25 pm to
No one is defending the coach. No one
Posted by TheSexecutioner
Member since Mar 2011
5247 posts
Posted on 11/22/12 at 2:28 pm to
But they are acting like he is being penalized too harshly.
Posted by swamie
Where opportunity meets hard work
Member since Jan 2007
27253 posts
Posted on 11/22/12 at 2:29 pm to
Nope. Everyone is acting like the play not being reviewable is harsh, not the 15 yards.
Posted by TGHub
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2008
2250 posts
Posted on 11/22/12 at 2:31 pm to
15 yard penalty is fine. Play not being reviewable is too harsh in this case because it caused an obvious missed call.
Posted by TJG210
New Orleans
Member since Aug 2006
28335 posts
Posted on 11/22/12 at 2:34 pm to
The only thing I can think is its a rule to stop coaches from showing up the officials.
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