Eliminating Marriage All Together | TigerDroppings.com

Posted byMessage
Interception
Providence Fan
Member since Nov 2008
11089 posts

Eliminating Marriage All Together



I hate that the government is defining how a marriage should be defined. Why do the Churches continue to fight this issue ? Why not work to try and eliminate marriage from the governments language and call everything a civil union?

That way, we wouldn't have to hear any more about this issue in a political campaign. Everybody would fall under Civil Unions with the same rights as marriage defined by the state in its current form. This would be a wise move by the church IMO.







Back to top
Share:
FT
Georgia Tech Fan
Aston Villa Supporter
Member since Oct 2003
16204 posts
 Online 

re: Eliminating Marriage All Together


Do want. You get the FT gold star of the day. Until, ya know, I see something else I like better and give them the gold star.





Back to top
  Replies (0)
GumboPot
LSU Fan
Saints Fan
Member since Mar 2009
25459 posts
 Online 

re: Eliminating Marriage All Together


The government shouldn't sanction marriage. A least that is the conclusion that I have come to. The government just needs to enforce contract law. Let the churches handle religious institutions and covenant law.





Back to top
doubleb
LSU Fan
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
6818 posts

re: Eliminating Marriage All Together


I believe most Christian churches view marriage as a sacrament.

You'd have marriages no matter what the govt. said.






Back to top
  Replies (0)
KeyserSoze999
LSU Fan
Member since Dec 2009
4062 posts

re: Eliminating Marriage All Together


I don't think it is the churches so much as the lawyers. IF churches determined who is married, but that type of contract was "separated or eliminated" from the state, and the state designated contracts/civil unions, then the courts would go into shell shock. How much money is made by raping divorsed husbands? The courts could no longer do it if marriage was only recognized as a religious thingy with no legal ramifications.





Back to top
  Replies (0)
doubleb
LSU Fan
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
6818 posts

re: Eliminating Marriage All Together


The govt. recognizes marriage as far as the law is concenrned.

They treat marriage as a if the couple uniting was a company.

It has nothing to do with love, sex, etc. but how society is structured.






Back to top
  Replies (0)
wavebreaker
LSU Fan
New Orleans
Member since Nov 2012
467 posts

re: Eliminating Marriage All Together


Would have to revise tax laws. Paternity laws. Custody laws. Eliminate divorce laws as well. Social security. Medical coverage. Tort law. Criminal law. Lot of implications.

Any palimony suits yet in "gay marriage" states? Gay guys snacking up = common law marriage.






Back to top
  Replies (0)
LSURussian
LSU Fan
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2005
83697 posts

re: Eliminating Marriage All Together


quote:

Why not work to try and eliminate marriage

Okay, let me go ask my wife.

brb....






Back to top
  Replies (0)
Baloo
LSU Fan
Formerly MDGeaux
Member since Sep 2003
44206 posts

re: Eliminating Marriage All Together


quote:

hate that the government is defining how a marriage should be defined.

Well, then you've been angry for about 1000 years. There has always been a legal definition of marriage pretty much dating back to the formation of modern government. It's both a civil and a religious institution. The argument over the definition of marriage only deals with the first kind.






Back to top
lsu13lsu
LSU Fan
Member since Jan 2008
2150 posts
 Online 

re: Eliminating Marriage All Together


quote:

It's both a civil and a religious institution. The argument over the definition of marriage only deals with the first kind.


I agree with you. However, I believe religious institutions don't want to be forced to marry people that have different beliefs which is what will happen. Discrimination, ya know.






Back to top
  Replies (0)
a want
LSU Fan
North America
Member since Oct 2010
10109 posts

re: Eliminating Marriage All Together


The government shouldn't recognize marriage, anyway. The only reason that I'm aware of is for tax breaks that probably shouldn't exist in the first place.

But it does recognize marriage, therefore gay marriage should be legal.






Back to top
Interception
Providence Fan
Member since Nov 2008
11089 posts

re: Eliminating Marriage All Together


You are all missing the point. Your church would define marriage, not the government. The government would simply have civil unions. You would end a lot of the social war right there, but that plays into many on the boards themes.

Anyway, gay marriage will be legal in nearly every state if its not a federal law. I'm simply saying if we all had civil unions and churches decided what a marriage was then you would take a lot of air out the social war.






Back to top
Zach
LSU Fan
Member since May 2005
65223 posts

re: Eliminating Marriage All Together


I believe that govt should be in charge of record keeping. If there are no records then Mary gets a proposal of marriage from John and Mary has no idea that John is currently married to 3 other women.

If you've ever tried to do a genealogical study of your family you are very happy that clerks of court kept records.






Back to top
  Replies (0)
Homesick Tiger
LSU Fan
Greenbrier, AR
Member since Nov 2006
14748 posts

re: Eliminating Marriage All Together


quote:

Why not work to try and eliminate marriage from the governments language and call everything a civil union?


When the government gets serious about seperation of church and state by my not having to vote at a church come every election, then I'll be willing to spend some time on your reasoning of the subject.

FWIW, I don't think the marriage debate is all about legal marriage and love between any two people. It's more about getting those benefits and deducts that the legal married (man-woman) folks get. JMO.






Back to top
Interception
Providence Fan
Member since Nov 2008
11089 posts

re: Eliminating Marriage All Together


quote:

FWIW, I don't think the marriage debate is all about legal marriage and love between any two people. It's more about getting those benefits and deducts that the legal married (man-woman) folks get. JMO.


I think it's more to do with viewing gays as equal at the alter vs man and woman. You might be right about taxes etc. and to me I don't know which is a worst discrimination. Gays have the right to be miserable like the rest of us I say.

The issue just seems so easy to fix but that's the point nobody wants to break. I just think the church can remain powerful by supporting the elimination of government involvement in marriages by calling everything a civil union.



This post was edited on 11/21 at 11:10 am


Back to top
  Replies (0)
KeyserSoze999
LSU Fan
Member since Dec 2009
4062 posts

re: Eliminating Marriage All Together


quote:

I'm simply saying if we all had civil unions and churches decided what a marriage was then you would take a lot of air out the social war.


I think this is correct, and why it won't happen. The gheys like the air and the social war, because they want to be percieved as normal, dammit.






Back to top
  Replies (0)
Wolfhound45
LSU Fan
Member since Nov 2009
19840 posts

re: Eliminating Marriage All Together


Government establishes common boundaries to marriage.

Can an adult marry a child?

Marry an animal? An inanimate object? A concept?






Back to top
Zach
LSU Fan
Member since May 2005
65223 posts

re: Eliminating Marriage All Together


Does anyone remember Pee Wee's Playhouse?

Miss Yvonne: "I love my new coat."
Pee Wee: "Why don't you marry it?"






Back to top
  Replies (0)
Interception
Providence Fan
Member since Nov 2008
11089 posts

re: Eliminating Marriage All Together


quote:

Government establishes common boundaries to marriage.

Can an adult marry a child?

Marry an animal? An inanimate object? A concept?


Government can establish common boundaries for CIVIL UNIONS.

You are getting off the point of this thread.






Back to top
wavebreaker
LSU Fan
New Orleans
Member since Nov 2012
467 posts

re: Eliminating Marriage All Together


Exactly.

What is the purpose of marriage? To provide a secure environment to breed and raise children. It's the basic building block of society. This is why it's under attack.

There is no Constitutional separation of church and State. That's in a letter written by Jefferson. The dealers were concerned a national religion (Church of England) might be adopted. The colonies were diverse (Christian) denominationally.

The First Amendment states no national church will be established nor will the free practice of religion be interfered with by the federal government.

Expanding religion to marriage means you could equate murder laws to the establishment of Biblical principles. We are allowed to define basic human interactions as part of our legal system.

You do raise a point though. Polygamists actually have a stronger argument than homosexuals. They have a religious practice argument for polygamy.






Back to top
  Replies (0)


Back to top