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re: NCAA gives former Miami players an ultimatum

Posted on 11/21/12 at 12:13 am to
Posted by BluegrassBelle
RIP Hefty Lefty - 1981-2019
Member since Nov 2010
98893 posts
Posted on 11/21/12 at 12:13 am to
Gonna be interesting if Teddy Bridgewater talks and what'll happen with Clint Hurtt on Louisville's staff.
Posted by Elleshoe
Wade’s World
Member since Jun 2004
143616 posts
Posted on 11/21/12 at 12:31 am to
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Depends what he is saying. Charges could go from money laundering, wire fraud, drug related, weapons charges, no telling what he has on the players.

Always have a get out of jail free card to play.



what does talking to the NCAA have to do with any possible criminal charges?
Posted by TigerintheNO
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2004
41151 posts
Posted on 11/21/12 at 12:47 am to
The only thing I know for sure,
is that there is 0% chance Arkansas will hire Butch Davis.
Posted by Sophandros
Victoria Concordia Crescit
Member since Feb 2005
45218 posts
Posted on 11/21/12 at 7:10 am to
The NCAA has no subpoena power, so they would just come down on the University regardless of whether or not these guys talk to them.

If I'm a former player, I'm telling the NCAA to go frick themselves.
Posted by Sophandros
Victoria Concordia Crescit
Member since Feb 2005
45218 posts
Posted on 11/21/12 at 7:12 am to
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Depends what he is saying. Charges could go from money laundering, wire fraud, drug related, weapons charges, no telling what he has on the players.


Doesn't matter. The NCAA isn't law enforcement.

If they simply "believe" what Shapiro says without any other evidence, nothing can or will happen to the former players.

Posted by Sophandros
Victoria Concordia Crescit
Member since Feb 2005
45218 posts
Posted on 11/21/12 at 7:30 am to
From the article:

quote:

My opinion: Regardless of whether it's bluffing or not, the NCAA - by sending this letter to former players - is being heavy-handed and manipulative. Considering the NCAA has no jurisdiction over former players, it's offensive that it would threaten to believe a convicted felon without additional corroboration. A felon, for that matter, who's in jail for a crime involving lying (a Ponzi scheme).


Yes, there is that.

Posted by loweralabamatrojan
Lower Alabama
Member since Oct 2006
13135 posts
Posted on 11/21/12 at 7:46 am to
This will devastate the 80K fans that fill seats to cheer for the Canes each Saturday.
Posted by braindeadboxer
Utopia
Member since Nov 2011
8742 posts
Posted on 11/21/12 at 7:51 am to
You take a hundred highly talented players and make them celebrities in their school and with their fanbases. Yet most come from poor backgrounds and in fact are still poor. Does the NCAA really expect this not to happen. Broke, 20 years old and lots of cash and women being passed to them. Of course they'll cave to temptation. It's human nature.
Posted by WITNESS23
Member since Feb 2010
13720 posts
Posted on 11/21/12 at 8:19 am to
Nevin Shapiro’s Yachts and Shots
Posted by Flair Chops
to the west, my soul is bound
Member since Nov 2010
35570 posts
Posted on 11/21/12 at 8:28 am to
MOTHERfrick
Posted by Kracka
Lafayette, Louisiana
Member since Aug 2004
40750 posts
Posted on 11/21/12 at 8:34 am to
These people from south florida are really animals. They bet on youth football and other youth sports, so none of these alligations are really that far of a stretch.
Posted by arrakis
Member since Nov 2008
21168 posts
Posted on 11/21/12 at 10:40 am to
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This will devastate the 80K fans that fill seats to cheer for the Canes each Saturday.


That has to be a joke.....

Posted by Flair Chops
to the west, my soul is bound
Member since Nov 2010
35570 posts
Posted on 11/21/12 at 10:43 am to
i guess you didn't see that he typed that in the sarcasm font
Posted by Zamoro10
Member since Jul 2008
14743 posts
Posted on 11/21/12 at 10:45 am to
Paul Dee "Memorial" University...I hope they erect a statue of this hypocrite and fraud, standing over the ruins of Miami as it's torn down, wagging his finger at the dust and rubble.

It would be fitting that Miami is finished and he's the guy who did it...on his watch.

High profile arseholes demand high profile compliance.
Posted by the LSUSaint
Member since Nov 2009
15444 posts
Posted on 11/21/12 at 11:31 am to
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f I'm a former player, I'm telling the NCAA to go frick themselves.


ok, and if they have to take Ship's word, your alma mater get the death penalty.

You do understand what he is saying happened right? SO if the players don't talk, the ncaa will levy their penalties on the school with the information of the people who have talked.

I do know this, if nothing wrong went on, why wouldn't you talk to them?
Posted by ToesOnTheNose213
The present
Member since Oct 2007
2028 posts
Posted on 11/21/12 at 11:45 am to
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Paul Dee "Memorial" University...


I've never wanted someone so dead when alive, and then alive when dead.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
110576 posts
Posted on 11/21/12 at 11:51 am to
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what a debacle Miami has become.


More like what a debacle the NCAA has come.

That's absolutely ridiculous.
Posted by Zamoro10
Member since Jul 2008
14743 posts
Posted on 11/21/12 at 12:09 pm to
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I've never wanted someone so dead when alive, and then alive when dead.


Well put.
Posted by Marciano1
Marksville, LA
Member since Jun 2009
18394 posts
Posted on 11/21/12 at 12:36 pm to
So basically the NCAA wants former players (many of which played a decade ago) to rat on the school or they will believe everything that came out of Shaprio's mouth, despite being a proven liar????

The NCAA is a joke and anyone who actually thinks Miami is getting the "death penalty" is living in a fantasy world. The school has cooperated with the investigation and they've given up TWO bowl bids already.

They'll get USC-like sanctions but nothing that will destroy the program.
Posted by H-Town Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
59039 posts
Posted on 11/21/12 at 12:40 pm to
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More like what a debacle the NCAA always has been
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