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sullivjh

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They learned that way in the wild. The alpha male wouldn't baby another dog into acting right.

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Are you wanting to train a dog to be part of a hunting pack in an eat or be eaten world or are you training a functional companion animal?


Also keep reading...I explained why kids and dogs are different. Humans are far more capable of reasoning than dogs and can more easily separate punishment from aggression. A dog only learns "if I do this, I get that." He is incapable of learning the reason for the punishment/reward.

I did make a mistake. I was too broad when I said "animals don't need to be broken". Domesticated dogs and other companion species are far different than working animals and should be handled differently.

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However, if you're still having to physically correct a dog when it is grown, then you have failed at training.

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Tell me that after you've owned a Welsh Terrier. Well, you won't because that statement is full of shite.

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I call bullshite. If you have to use aggression to train your dog, you need to learn better training techniques and take some time to learn the instinctive behaviors of the animal you are training. I've trained many dogs at all ages from new born up to about 8 years old (well past the best training period) and never once have I had to hit or whip a dog or use a choke collar even. I fostered 10 lab mix puppies from birth to adoption at 8 weeks and had them trained to sit and stay (mostly, didn't have but a week or so to work on the "stay" command with them) by the time they were adopted out. Still have the mother, a border collie/lab mix that was neglected and beaten regularly before she found us. She is now a well trained family pet that I rarely even have to raise my voice too. I always find that people who use physical aggression to train an animal lack the persistence and patients to do it properly. Hell, I even have my cats trained to a few basic commands.

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Had no clue my wife had a TD alter account. Baby, please get back to your interior designs shop, and design some beautiful curtains.

Anyways, even when I hit my dog he comes back and likes me just the same. And I like my dogs like I like my women.

Battered.

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Had no clue my wife had a TD alter account. Baby, please get back to your interior designs shop, and design some beautiful curtains.

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I would just like to point out that although TigerTreyjpg replied to me, the quote in his post is not mine.

I love when someone comes on a thread and tells people they are doing it wrong and their way is better
I think by the 5 or so to 1 ratio in the last few pages, its obvious whipping them trains them. I think it has more too do with the animal = to human thinking from the peta type.

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I'd put money on the line that a group of people would say my dog is better than yours.

It comes down to the basic learning ability of animals. Put your hand on a hot stove, get burned. Maybe my dog is Einstein, but I can tell him not to do something and he won't because he knows I will "correct" him if he doesn't. I don't walk around kicking him or anything. Snatching him up in a bear trap and looking him face-to-face normally works. Never used a choke chain. Don't even have a leash for him.


Case in point: My dad got angry because my dog kept jumping in his pool and biting the cleaner hose. I told him not to, and he didn't do it anymore. I don't want him to jump in when I make a short pit stop, so I told him a few times not to get in. He won't even think about jumping in unless I tell him it is okay. Well, maybe he thinks about it, but not hard! This is a dog that took a nap in a muddy pond a few weeks ago. He loves the water.

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He absolutely hates squirrels. They drive him nuts, no pun intended. He looks back at me waiting for me to let him go chase and bark at them before he does anything. Won't do it unless I tell him.

I miss having a smart dog. Maybe next time.

I have a catahoula as an inside dog. He stays in a pen during the day. He suffers from separartion anxiety real bad. He can't be trusted alone in the house. He doesn't shed that bad, good tempered with the boys, loves my wife. The ups guy pulls up in the yard and honks so my wife will come to him. He's terrified of Tank after he chased the guy back into the truck. Very protective animal when I'm not there. When I get home he becomes a different dog.

Good looking pup