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re: Maryland approves move to Big TEN
Posted on 11/19/12 at 12:31 pm to rocket31
Posted on 11/19/12 at 12:31 pm to rocket31
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only thing that will force their hand is if there is a strong movement toward superconferences of 16 teams.
And that is exactly what people think has just gone into motion.
SEC has 14, Pac 12 has 12, Big Ten has 13 as of now and will hit 14 if they get Rutgers, and the Big 12 has 10.
It's easy to see the SEC, Big Ten, and Big 12 picking apart the Big East and ACC to get to 16 each.
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Posted on 11/19/12 at 12:32 pm to 1fairbank
I thought KSU sucked academically
Posted on 11/19/12 at 12:33 pm to 1fairbank
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Under its current rules, the B1G cannot add Georgia Tech as it is not in a state connected to another B1G state.
Maybe the should try for K-State?
Looks like the possibilities would be Kansas and UVA, with some of the Carolina schools being in play if they get UVA first.
Posted on 11/19/12 at 12:33 pm to 1fairbank
quote:I believe you are thinking of the rule in risk where you can't attack a territory not originally connected to your territory at the start of your turn.
Under its current rules, the B1G cannot add Georgia Tech as it is not in a state connected to another B1G state.
Is that a real big 10 rule?
Posted on 11/19/12 at 12:34 pm to teke184
I see UNC and UVA as the next targets with Georgia Tech as a possibility.
Posted on 11/19/12 at 12:34 pm to The Easter Bunny
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I thought KSU sucked academically
They do. They also bring no new markets, a very small, regional fan base, and an athletic history that makes Mizzou's look pretty damn formidable.
This post was edited on 11/19/12 at 12:35 pm
Posted on 11/19/12 at 12:34 pm to Chicken
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This just seems like it would be a tough sell to get athletes to come to GA Tech...talk about being a fish out of water...
The best athletes are already going to SEC schools. This would let GT survive the move to four super conferences since we aren't getting an invite back to the SEC.
Posted on 11/19/12 at 12:35 pm to BreakawayZou83
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Agreed. Texas has already destroyed two conferences, why throw that mess into the SEC? Especially when we're already in the Texas market. I hope it's UNC and VA Tech that get the nod.
Thirded on UT. Let those frickers go out on their own or stick around in a neutered Big 12.
My wishlist for teams 15 and 16 would probably be Oklahoma, V-Tech, UNC, NC State, and UVA between media markets and expanding the recruiting grounds.
Posted on 11/19/12 at 12:35 pm to rocket31
quote:If 16 is the magic number, the Big Ten can only add two more teams. Assuming those two teams come from the ACC, you would still have a decent number of basketball schools left in the ACC, plus you could add the strong schools from the Big East...
only thing that will force their hand is if there is a strong movement toward superconferences of 16 teams.
The real interesting thing to look for is how the Big 12 reacts...with everyone else growing, and the Big 12 not really having much to choose from within their own region, they have to make a play outside their region.
They have options, but their conference will have an identity problem, and I am not sure how well it will work for their new members.
Posted on 11/19/12 at 12:36 pm to Chicken
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This just seems like it would be a tough sell to get athletes to come to GA Tech...talk about being a fish out of water...
GT will always have this problem, no matter if they're in the ACC, B1G, Big 12, or if by some weird circumstance they return to the SEC.
But oddly this is why GT may be attractive. They're not going to threaten any of the major sports powers, AND their academic credentials are among the best out there.
Plus if cable eyeballs are the end-all, you pick up the top-10 ATL market to increase your per-subscriber rates.
Posted on 11/19/12 at 12:37 pm to 1fairbank
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OU will not come without Okie Lite
I would be amazed if OU goes anywhere...for a couple reasons but foremost the GoR issue. One of the reasons the ACC schools can and will leave is there is no GoR in the ACC just an exit fee.
Oh and Chip Brown tweeted that the Big12 was not looking to expand even with today's events....which means the Big12 will soon look to move to a 20 team conference.
ETA - I've seen people throwing around other Big12 schools like Kansas, Kansas State, etc moving. Again, if someone can explain to me how you can get around a GoR then maybe otherwise I will continue to believe that no Big12 school is going anywhere.
This post was edited on 11/19/12 at 12:39 pm
Posted on 11/19/12 at 12:37 pm to OrangeBlood
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Oh and Chip Brown tweeted that the Big12 was not looking to expand even with today's events....which means the Big12 will soon look to move to a 20 team conference.
Posted on 11/19/12 at 12:38 pm to OrangeBlood
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Oh and Chip Brown tweeted that the Big12 was not looking to expand even with today's events....which means the Big12 will soon look to move to a 20 team conference.
Big C-USA, here we come!
Posted on 11/19/12 at 12:39 pm to Chicken
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The real interesting thing to look for is how the Big 12 reacts...with everyone else growing, and the Big 12 not really having much to choose from within their own region, they have to make a play outside their region.
And this is why I still think the Big 12 is the most susceptible to a full-blown collapse, even after this Maryland move.
Also, the Pac 12 has to be watching this unfold and realizing that if they don't plunder the Big 12 before the Big 12 solidifies, they are going to have some awful expansion targets: BYU? Boise State? Nevada?
This post was edited on 11/19/12 at 12:39 pm
Posted on 11/19/12 at 12:39 pm to teke184
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UNC, NC State, and UVA between media markets and expanding the recruiting grounds.
No offense but UNC and UVA are going to want a part of our research money a whole lot more than they're going to want to join the SEC.
Posted on 11/19/12 at 12:40 pm to BreakawayZou83
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And this is why I still think the Big 12 is the most susceptible to a full-blown collapse, even after this Maryland move
I'm not being a dick, just curious...See my post above and explain how this will happen.
Posted on 11/19/12 at 12:41 pm to VABuckeye
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No offense but UNC and UVA are going to want a part of our research money a whole lot more than they're going to want to join the SEC.
No shite. I figure neither school would ever join the SEC, but never say never.
More realistic possibilities are Tech and NC State, which bring the same markets and recruiting grounds.
Posted on 11/19/12 at 12:41 pm to OrangeBlood
quote:can you give me a summary of how the GoR works?
I would be amazed if OU goes anywhere...for a couple reasons but foremost the GoR issue
Posted on 11/19/12 at 12:42 pm to OrangeBlood
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Oh and Chip Brown tweeted that the Big12 was not looking to expand even with today's events....which means the Big12 will soon look to move to a 20 team conference.
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Again, if someone can explain to me how you can get around a GoR then maybe otherwise I will continue to believe that no Big12 school is going anywhere.
Simple. The legalese for the GoR was probably written by a combination of Texas and OU law school grads. Look deep enough and it says that Texas and OU can leave without penalty. OTOH, Baylor gets hosed (not that anyone above the Southland Conference wants them anyway).
Posted on 11/19/12 at 12:42 pm to OrangeBlood
I can't see UNC making a move without Duke. I know that basketball is secondary to most of us. But, it is the most important thing to both of those school.
Can you imagine an SEC Basketball Conference with Duke, UNC, and Kentucky?
Can you imagine an SEC Basketball Conference with Duke, UNC, and Kentucky?
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