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re: Maryland approves move to Big TEN
Posted on 11/19/12 at 5:53 pm to SpartyGator
Posted on 11/19/12 at 5:53 pm to SpartyGator
Same here. It makes the rotation with the other division easier to work out plus you should only play your rival once a year.
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Posted on 11/19/12 at 5:54 pm to SpartyGator
East Division:
Maryland
Rutgers
Penn St
OSU
Michigan
Michigan St
Indiana
West Division:
Purdue
Northwestern
Illinois
Minnesota
Wisconsin
Iowa
Nebraska
Maryland
Rutgers
Penn St
OSU
Michigan
Michigan St
Indiana
West Division:
Purdue
Northwestern
Illinois
Minnesota
Wisconsin
Iowa
Nebraska
Posted on 11/19/12 at 5:54 pm to StraightCashHomey21
quote:
and arent you from bmore you should already know the DC/Bmore market trumps KC and STL
The difference is that Mizzou actually carries the markets attached to it.
Posted on 11/19/12 at 5:59 pm to StraightCashHomey21
quote:
ok mizzou
Point out where I am wrong in stating that the Big 12 is the most susceptible to a full-blown collapse of the remaining major conferences.
-It lacks a solid geographical footprint compared to the Big 10, ACC, SEC and PAC 12.
-It is the worst conference academically of the five.
-It has few meaningful rivalries or tradition amongst its members.
-The fewest major television markets of the major conferences.
-Only ten member institutions and no championship game.
-Has lost four members in two years and four others have tried to leave in the past year.
But you can keep living in dream land, WVU fan.
Posted on 11/19/12 at 6:10 pm to BreakawayZou83
I LOVE this move by the Big Ten! This move allows the conference to move East and get away from being completely Midwestern. I laugh at when people complain about adding schools that arent "worthy" on the field opponents. What do you want...to add Alabama, Oklahoma, Texas and LSU? Give me a break! It doesnt matter who you add, somebody still has to suck. I like this move because it is bringing in two teams that now have the chance to raise the level of their program with added revenue. This is good for all involved. I particularly love the Maryland addition. Once the dust settles, Big Ten fans will open up to this. Oh, and i agree, please go EAST/WEST.
EAST:
Ohio St
Penn St
Michigan
Mich St
Maryland
Rutgers
Indiana
WEST:
Nebraska
Wisconsin
Northwestern
Iowa
Minnesota
Illinois
Purdue
EAST:
Ohio St
Penn St
Michigan
Mich St
Maryland
Rutgers
Indiana
WEST:
Nebraska
Wisconsin
Northwestern
Iowa
Minnesota
Illinois
Purdue
Posted on 11/19/12 at 6:13 pm to BreakawayZou83
quote:
Point out where I am wrong in stating that the Big 12 is the most susceptible to a full-blown collapse of the remaining major conferences
I keep bringing this up and you keep brushing it off, but every member of the Big12 has signed its media rights away to the conference for the next 13 years. It takes a vote of, currently, 8 out of 10 members to dissolve the Big12 (rule is at least 70%). That's the only way (that I know of, I could be wrong) to get the media rights back. Name me the 8 teams that are going to vote for that. Iowa State, TCU, OK State, KState? F'n Baylor? There's 5 right there that would do anything possible to keep it together, which includes not voting to dissolve.
All of your points, even if valid, pale in comparison to this simple fact.
And hey, I was jazzed about Texas possibly going to the Pac12. I'm not some "Big12 or Die" fan. But the conference stayed together and took action to make sure it is extremely, extremely difficult to split apart. The ACC does not have the same difficulty.
Posted on 11/19/12 at 6:20 pm to OrangeBlood
quote:
every member of the Big12 has signed its media rights away to the conference for the next 13 years. It takes a vote of, currently, 8 out of 10 members to dissolve the Big12 (rule is at least 70%). That's the only way (that I know of, I could be wrong) to get the media rights back.
Or the schools could just back out of the agreement, join another conference, and then negotiate the penalties
Posted on 11/19/12 at 6:23 pm to OrangeBlood
quote:
I keep bringing this up and you keep brushing it off, but every member of the Big12 has signed its media rights away to the conference for the next 13 years. It takes a vote of, currently, 8 out of 10 members to dissolve the Big12 (rule is at least 70%). That's the only way (that I know of, I could be wrong) to get the media rights back. Name me the 8 teams that are going to vote for that. Iowa State, TCU, OK State, KState? F'n Baylor? There's 5 right there that would do anything possible to keep it together, which includes not voting to dissolve.
I just don't see how such a deal is going to hold up, also the whole process has been so shady and under wraps that I question what has really been resolved. And please tell me with a straight face that Texas and OU give a single frick about how many votes it takes to dissolve the conference. Much like with the ACC, the fact that such drastic measures were even needed tells you about the stability of the conference.
quote:
And hey, I was jazzed about Texas possibly going to the Pac12. I'm not some "Big12 or Die" fan. But the conference stayed together and took action to make sure it is extremely, extremely difficult to split apart. The ACC does not have the same difficulty.
I would be too, the Big 12 doesn't exactly offer many exciting opponents and travel destinations compared to the PAC 12.
Posted on 11/19/12 at 6:27 pm to WikiTiger
I suppose media rights might be repurchased - I'm not sure. But it's not the same as an exit penalty. There are legal limits on exit fees - repurchasing media rights at their full value could be hundreds of millions of dollars. What conference is going to want to deal with a new member that does not own its own media rights and the cost to get them back is astronomical.
I could be wrong - I'll admit that. We need to call down the TD media rights attorneys to get this question answered.
I could be wrong - I'll admit that. We need to call down the TD media rights attorneys to get this question answered.
Posted on 11/19/12 at 6:29 pm to BreakawayZou83
quote:
Much like with the ACC, the fact that such drastic measures were even needed tells you about the stability of the conference.
The Pac12 and B1G have GoRs as well - were they worried about their stability too?
Posted on 11/19/12 at 7:07 pm to OrangeBlood
quote:
Maryland doesn't really have the DC market though. That's an area filled with transplants. UMD does own the Baltimore market but nobody cares about Maryland football. They only care about MD basketball and people will never care as much about playing Michigan State and Indiana like they do about playing UNC and Duke. Oh and FWIW, everybody is hating this move.
I think this is smaller part of a bigger move for the Big 10 and MD helps bridge the gap to maybe say UNC and UVA.
Posted on 11/19/12 at 9:12 pm to fargobison
Not sure why, but I'm really excited about all of this. I'm personally hoping to land UVA and UNC as well(UNC being the school I'd love to have join as it would be fun for basketball).
Posted on 11/19/12 at 9:46 pm to StraightCashHomey21
quote:
StraightCashHomey21
Do you still feel that VT isn't the most viable college in the DC Market? Last season you were hating on them and that argument.
Posted on 11/19/12 at 9:56 pm to 504Saint
This should provide some interesting insight in regards to conference realignment.
College Football's Top 25 Highest-Rated Markets
SIAP
College Football's Top 25 Highest-Rated Markets
SIAP
Posted on 11/19/12 at 10:00 pm to Veritas
Ohio reppin' - Columbus, Dayton, Cleveland.
Posted on 11/20/12 at 10:41 am to BreakawayZou83
quote:
The difference is that Mizzou actually carries the markets attached to it.
You dont get it do you? With Maryland in the B1G now all the tv companies in the DC area will have to have the BTN don't matter who watches it will be part of superscription only a few companies right now in DC have it.
Posted on 11/20/12 at 10:42 am to StraightCashHomey21
quote:
You dont get it do you? With Maryland in the B1G now all the tv companies in the DC area will have to have the BTN don't matter who watches it will be part of superscription only a few companies right now in DC have it.
Exactly. Another top 10 market.
Posted on 11/20/12 at 10:43 am to StraightCashHomey21
quote:
With Maryland in the B1G now all the tv companies in the DC area will have to have the BTN don't matter who watches it will be part of superscription only a few companies right now in DC have it.
um, no.
That's not how it works.
The companies do not "have to" carry the B1G network. What it does is increase the subscriber fee for cable companies in Maryland if they do choose to carry it.
In other words, the subscriber fee for the B1G network is higher in states with a B1G school than in states without a B1G school. So, the hope for the B1G is that they can convince the Maryland and New Jersey cable providers to carry the B1G network, thus increasing their revenue.
Posted on 11/20/12 at 10:44 am to Veritas
quote:
Do you still feel that VT isn't the most viable college in the DC Market? Last season you were hating on them and that argument.
The area does have tons of alumni, thing is the school is 5 hours away while Maryland is 30mins from DC. Push come to shove if both teams are worth a shite Maryland would get way more coverage. The Washington Post when Maryland is good in hoops is just redic.
Hell not every VT football game is even on in the DC area. Maryland is.
Posted on 11/20/12 at 10:46 am to WikiTiger
quote:
um, no.
That's not how it works.
The companies do not "have to" carry the B1G network. What it does is increase the subscriber fee for cable companies in Maryland if they do choose to carry it.
um yes
when BTN becomes part of the sports package and its the only way to watch Terps hoops which they are crazy about people will demand their company carries it.
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