re: When exactly was Gordon given a 4-6 week timeline?

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And I think it was aimed at me, or at least should have been aimed at me, because I'll admit I've asked repeatedly about the competency of the medical staff, but I think the questions have been reasonable given the limited facts we have available to us.

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I'm sure it was. You're not the only one asking, but you do ask the most frequently. That said, it IS a legitimate question to ask given the dearth of reasonable answers provided.

Quite frankly, you are probably the most reasonable poster on here and you tend to apply logic first and foremost. It's not like you are in every thread posting "Gaawwwwwwd! Our medical staff sucks! We might as well send them to witch doctors!"

It wasn't directed at anyone in particular, but TigerinATL responded quite reasonably to the question. I just picked the debate up from when it started.

Feel free to denigrate me for whatever good it does, those of you who seem to lie in wait to do it. Enjoy.

I said point blank these guys make mistakes, so I'm not defending anyone. I'm bringing up the other things that need to be discussed, in my opinion, to make this more than the gripe session these things turn into.

And, really, try to talk about the topic and not me or other websites you may or may not like. It really adds nothing while bolstering the point that this it's more about griping and about the people in the discussion than the facts.

TigerinATL, if you felt I was slamming you on no account, all apologies. You were the last post on the thread and I failed to quote what prompted me to bring up the old discussions.

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the point that this it's more about griping and about the people in the discussion than the facts.

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Trust me, I wasn't waiting around for you to post.

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I didn't feel slammed so much as I thought the charges were a mischaracterization of what I've seen here. Gordon is the only person involved who I would consider to have been personally attacked. Everyone else has been questioned as to what role they have/may have played and could/should they have done better, but nothing I'd consider a personal attack.

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Just making sure.

And, it's not a matter of questioning the team, it's a matter of asking the right questions and examining what the data tells you.

And generally,

"Injury issues" are a part of every team, so is every training staff below average somehow? Or is there a baseline rate of success and failure that they staff should be compared to?

The existence of a injury to a player, even on a yearly basis, may not be cause for alarm while a single misdiagnosis would be. It depends on the situation.

Twisting the words of others may make you feel good, but it doesn't make an actual point.

And I know you, Jester, were not waiting around for me to post, but you sure do like to discuss posters more than facts. I actually like most of what you do, but I really don't care if you don't reciprocate.

That wasn't sarcasm. I know, rare for me.

He's missing all this time for knee soreness?

I have soreness in my knees and I don't miss NBA games..

Who is "Gordon"?

Back to the rant you go

Realistic expectation would be after the all-star break. That way you won't be let down.

O/U 5.5?