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HailHailtoMichigan!
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It's tough to elect liberty when you have an electorate that believes government can solve issues such as healthcare and poverty.

I'm telling you, the more emotional this country grows when it comes to fiscal issues, the faster we arrive to our last days.

Emotional, at least in today's political landscape, is the antithesis to both individualism and liberty.







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JohnnyKilroy
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And like fightin tiger said, his fiscally conservative stances. I agree that Obama would scare the masses that Ron Paul wants to take away entitlement programs, subsidies, and what ever unnecessary spending we have in.

Ron Paul also supports getting rid of dept of education. He understands that it serves no purpose and is best left up to the states. Obama would use that as a wedge issue to scare the masses also.


This.

I'd have voted, donated, and probably campaigned if it were Paul instead of Romney, but he would have gotten killed imo. People are terrified of change. Even if it means doing away with things that are unequivocally dragging us down. Dept of Education is a perfect example.






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This.

I'd have voted, donated, and probably campaigned if it were Paul instead of Romney, but he would have gotten killed imo. People are terrified of change. Even if it means doing away with things that are unequivocally dragging us down. Dept of Education is a perfect example.


Yeah, if it were Paul vs. Obama, it would have been a repeat of LBJ vs. Goldwater.

Sad.

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People are terrified of change. Even if it means doing away with things that are unequivocally dragging us down. Dept of Education is a perfect example.


Yep.

We refuse to tell the truth much less hear it.






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Although, I've really been a fan of his for a short time, I do respect the hell out of that man.

Dr. Paul



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Geauxrilla Ballz
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I can't explain the level of happiness I get from reading the posts on this thread (sans one).

Ron Paul is the only politician who gives me hope.

Viva Ron Paul.






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Viva Ron Paul.


Viva liberty.






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HailHailtoMichigan!
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Ron Paul is the only politician who gives me hope.
Hopefully his son carries on his legacy, albeit in a more pragmatic manner.






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Zach
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Emotional, at least in today's political landscape, is the antithesis to both individualism and liberty.

Yep. And that has direct correlations to female voting.






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HailHailtoMichigan!
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And that has direct correlations to female voting.

and also the rare doghead voting.






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braindeadboxer
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Congress is losing its last marble now that he is leaving.





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JohnnyKilroy
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Yeah, if it were Paul vs. Obama, it would have been a repeat of LBJ vs. Goldwater.



Rand is our only shot at anyone close imo.

I'm all too aware that he isn't nearly as libertarian as his father, but he's the only one close that has a shot anytime soon imo.

His biggest knock is that he is a neo-con warhawk, but I really liked his advice to Romney in the third debate. Romney, of course, didn't take it.






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bradybones24
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I'd like to address the "prosper" part of the speech. I agree with most of what he says but he sort of contradicts himself unknowingly...he talked about how the founders created a constitution that would only be followed if the followers were moral and virtuous citizens. Initially, when the constitution was written, this country (for the most part) was that.

I will get flack for this, but it is my belief that certain minorities in this country have made it difficult for these ideas to work. Our constitution was not meant to govern the countries in the continent of Africa. Their definition of prosperous is different than Anglo-American's. I do not mean to offend, but it's the undeniable truth. Take a hard look at the countries of different cultures and races of our planet and compare. We will never convince a certain portion of our population into these ideas.

I'm very frustrated with my own beliefs and I wish someone would change my opinion on the subject. I believe that this country is destined for failure and with two small children it's very disheartening. Please change my mind.



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I hope he continues to speak and spread his message.






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dr. paul is the man.






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Sentrius
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Rand is our only shot at anyone close imo.

I'm all too aware that he isn't nearly as libertarian as his father, but he's the only one close that has a shot anytime soon imo.

His biggest knock is that he is a neo-con warhawk, but I really liked his advice to Romney in the third debate. Romney, of course, didn't take it.


I actually like Rand. He's not as strong ideologically as his father and Gary Johnson is but he could get the real conservative/libertarian movement started in the GOP along with preventing more big gov't polices from the democrat in 2016 if he were to win in 2016. That would be minimally enough to vote for him.

If that movement were to gain steam, real conservatives who advoacte liberty and freedom like his father and Gary Johnson would again be the face of the republican party. That would stomp the liberals and democrats everywhere in every election.

They could take a big step in getting this movement started now by being the party that wants to end the war on drugs. I hope the republicans can take advantage of it before the democrats will.






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he talked about how the founders created a constitution that would only be followed if the followers were moral and virtuous citizens
Every form of government of every kind requires moral and virtuous citizens. They all, inevitably, fail in that regard.

Government, then, needs to be protected from the citizens as much as the citizens need to be protected from the government. I don't mean that the government or the citizens should be beyond reproach, only that the checks and balances in the constitution are a huge step in the right direction there. The people can't be allowed to vote themselves more benefits; the government can't be allowed to swell it's own power.

The idea of a Republic is a good one, and one that Franklin explained exceptionally well when he said,"A Republic, if you can keep it." I don't know that any civilization can truly "keep" a Republic. People, whether in government or as parts of the citizenry, will find ways to pollute, pervert and destroy whatever system they find themselves in.

It will take a change in the way our people think, act and behave for it to work. I believe in the people. I have to. I don't have another choice. Fatalism gets you nowhere. Let not your heart be troubled. Do right by your kids, be the best guy you can be, and forget about it.







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JohnnyKilroy
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They could take a big step in getting this movement started now by being the party that wants to end the war on drugs. I hope the republicans can take advantage of it before the democrats will.



Quit tryna jack my swag

jk



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bradybones24
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You know who crushed Romney in Tuesday's election? Blacks, Latinos, and young people. You know who opposes the war on drugs? Blacks, Latinos, and young people.


I can understand your logic in ending the war on drugs...but you said it...the people that oppose the ware on drugs (blacks, latinos, and young people) are probably the least educated groups in our population. Should that tell us something? Let's not be naive.

This legalizing marijuana proposition is probably the one issue that I have with Ron Paul. Again, the constitution was written for a different people than what we have today. I see an inevitable dumbing down and degrading of our society at a faster rate with drug legalization.



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JohnnyKilroy
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I can understand your logic in ending the war on drugs...but you said it...the people that oppose the ware on drugs (blacks, latinos, and young people) are probably the least educated groups in our population. Should that tell us something?


The most educated among us preferred Obama over Romney. Should that tell us something?






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Sentrius
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Speaking of threads, I think I'm about to start one and ask if Obama is a neo-con.

I've always wondered that. He's so similar to bush that I can't help but notice the similarities.

What you think of that?

It would send the liberals on here into a tizzy though.






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