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I don't know what you would have me call the killing of innocent human life. Is homicide better?

Not really.. That is the whole point. Were abortion legally considered the killing of innocent human life, then you could designate one of your monikers. But, in a legal sense, it is not considered the killing of an innocent life. Which answers the question which is your thread. The answer to your question/solution to your thread is

NO






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ShoeBang
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OMLandshark


You have less composure than Keltic.

Coming in here with the name calling and vulgarity will get you the same reception you are offering to people with differing opinions.

The one thing everyone who is pro life is telling you (which from what I read, you refuse to accept) is that ALL human life is sacred to us, no matter the circumstances of its creation.

Instead of killing the innocent child (who had nothing to do with the circumstances of his/her conception), why not put the child up for adoption?

And please, call me names. That'll make you seem more evolved and intelligent.






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MrTide33
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So back when we killed blacks it was alright because it was legal? To say the solution to this thread has to do with the current law is ridiculous. That's what I'm trying to change





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Bloodworth
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Would God support abortion?


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Spontaneous abortion happens in nature with regularity.

Yes....your point?


[quote] Deliberate abortion occurs in nature in cases when life of the mother is at risk.

So the other 99% of abortions that occur when mothers life is not in danger are not deliberate??? What?

[quote]Probably was not the question you wanted to ask.


Yes...its exactly the question I wanted to ask.

I find it shocking that people are so casual about the most sacred thing in the universe.....LIFE!







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Keltic Tiger
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ShoeBang, have you gone thru a 9 mth pregnancy with your wife or significant other? Do you have any idea of the emotional roller coaster that a pregnant female goes thru, even under normal circumstances? I have 2 sons & know only too well what all those 9 mths entail. The good & the bad.Add to that the pure hell that my sister would have had to endure, mentally, and mabe you will understand that just having the baby & letting it be adopted is not quite the easy solution you and most all no holds barred pro lifers think it is. Physically, my sister had to go thru several yrs of intense counseling before she was able to try & have normal sexual relations with her husband. Can you imagine what she would feel, for 9 mths, every time she had to visit her OBGYN, having a male doctor touch her, knowing as well that he would be seeing the physical damages done to her vagina that not even the best surgeons could "fix". Can you even begin to imagine how difficult that would have been? For NINE mths? As I said, this is what the real world is all bout, living that rape, over & over again, day to day to day.





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Keltic Tiger
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MrTide, I am sorry if it seems I am "dragging you thru the mud". It's just that I get a bit upset when you and all the others here judge my sister to be a murderer. And you can dance all around your phrases, but that the word "murder" is not one I initiated; rather, it came from the pro lifers here. "Not judgmental"? Then do tell me just what the hell you are doing here when you say "".....is not the right thing to do". Again, your way is the right way; ours is then obviously the wrong way. Glad to see that you are/were getting upset by name calling. Care to guess how I upset I have been these past few nites? My sister is a real live human being, not just some generic "female" for all of you to discuss & disect as if an insect under a microscope.





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asurob1
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Well, if you read, you'd also see other stats and that she is also speaking on behalf of all raped women. She is not speaking for or against abortion. All I can say is read it. I'm going to bed now, take care.



No one is ever speaking on behalf of "all" other people.

Once again you show just how narrow minded your view of the world.






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asurob1
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re: Is Abortion Murder?


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You have less composure than Keltic.

Coming in here with the name calling and vulgarity will get you the same reception you are offering to people with differing opinions.

The one thing everyone who is pro life is telling you (which from what I read, you refuse to accept) is that ALL human life is sacred to us, no matter the circumstances of its creation.

Instead of killing the innocent child (who had nothing to do with the circumstances of his/her conception), why not put the child up for adoption?

And please, call me names. That'll make you seem more evolved and intelligent.


right, why not force that woman to be reminded 24 hours a day for nine months about what her rapist did to her. Because that's not torture...






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Ace Midnight
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right, why not force that woman to be reminded 24 hours a day for nine months about what her rapist did to her. Because that's not torture...


Easier and neater to just cut the unborn child into small bits and vacuum it out with a shop vac. No fuss, no muss.






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asurob1
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right, why not force that woman to be reminded 24 hours a day for nine months about what her rapist did to her. Because that's not torture...



Easier and neater to just cut the unborn child into small bits and vacuum it out with a shop vac. No fuss, no muss.


So I can put you down as being in favor of torturing the rape victim.






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themunch
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re: Is Abortion Murder?


But, in a legal sense, it is not considered the killing of an innocent life.

Such is the way of the world.

:bigfrown:






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ShortyRob
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So I can put you down as being in favor of torturing the rape victim.

I happen to be for exceptions for rape/incest/LIFE of the mother.

That said, given modern technology, there is virtually no need for an abortion post rape. The morning after pill exists and is highly effective.

To me, that particular area is an argument in search of a problem.






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Keltic Tiger
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MrTide..."I don't equate abortion to have anything to do with religion." Then I guess I misread your comments bout God & His feelings bout the rights of the unborn...as you interpret His feelings to be, anyway. My sister goes to Mass every morning, and she has yet to feel that her God looks down on her for what she did. Just the opposite, she goes to Him, and receives,for all the love & comfort He gives to her. That is our family's beliefs; feel free to have your own, but you need to accept that you will not change ours just because yours is the more righteous. In your opinion, anyway.





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Ace Midnight
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So I can put you down as being in favor of torturing the rape victim.


No. I've withdrawn any objection I may have had in the past to abortion on demand (as that phrase is commonly abused). Knock yourselves out. Have abortions at nail salons, under the hoods of cars - hand out vouchers for them at rave parties. Just stop pretending it is something it is not. It is the execution of a completely innocent life at the convenience, whim, spite, impulse, or "to preserve the health, mental or otherwise" of the mother. It is nothing (and can be nothing) else.







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TrueTiger
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Let's use the liberal's favorite tool to get rid of it.

Tax the hell out of it.






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Ace Midnight
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Tax the hell out of it.


That would work, but with the coming "free" healthcare (and make no mistake, "free to all" abortions is a significant driver in this), taxing the procedure won't work, because the treasury will be paying everybody's medical bills.

And why do I get the impression that abortions (99.99% of which are elective) will never be disapproved? Why do I assume that?






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MrTide33
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My sister is a real live human being, not just some generic "female" for all of you to discuss & disect as if an insect under a microscope.


I haven't treated your sister as a statistic. I'm not judging your sister's action. I see the reasoning and it is currently legal. I do not wish to make you upset or have to think about what happened to her.






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Keltic Tiger
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Ace Midnite, there was nothing fricking easy or neat bout any of what happened to my sister. If you were someone I gave a rat's arse bout, I'd offer you the opportunity to meet my sister & you could tell her those words to her face. The problem is, we relate to living, breathing human beings, and how they are effected by such horrors is very much a part of our real, day to day lives. Your world is simple, black & white, ruled by dogma.





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MrTide33
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re: Is Abortion Murder?


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MrTide..."I don't equate abortion to have anything to do with religion." Then I guess I misread your comments bout God & His feelings bout the rights of the unborn...as you interpret His feelings to be, anyway.


I did not comment about God's feelings about the unborn. I simply replied once to a question about if God plans rape. That was prompted. I take abortion outside of a religious sphere because there's no need for it to be in one.

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My sister goes to Mass every morning, and she has yet to feel that her God looks down on her for what she did. Just the opposite, she goes to Him, and receives,for all the love & comfort He gives to her.


I understand that. I do not look down on your sister either. Just as God loves and comforts her, I, and most other pro-lifers, would want to extend love and comfort to your sister.






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Ace Midnight
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Ace Midnite, there was nothing fricking easy or neat bout any of what happened to my sister. If you were someone I gave a rat's arse bout, I'd offer you the opportunity to meet my sister & you could tell her those words to her face. The problem is, we relate to living, breathing human beings, and how they are effected by such horrors is very much a part of our real, day to day lives. Your world is simple, black & white, ruled by dogma.


Your sister is a living, breathing human being. She shouldn't have had to endure anything like the crime that was committed upon her person.

The rapist is a living, breathing human being who ought not to be anymore (If he still lives, that is indeed, too bad; if he isn't, good riddance).

The baby was a living human being (not breathing, because it never got that chance). Hopefully (and I have to believe this is true), the horror committed upon its little person was much less than that upon your sister. At least that way it is a net gain.

It is done, now. Hopefully you, your sister and your family have some peace in all of this. I don't object to abortion on demand any longer. I always objected to those who very maliciously used situations like your sister's to justify the killing of millions (and millions) of innocents.

And my world is most decidedly not "black and white" and I am not ruled by "dogma", whatever that even means.

I truly hope that G-d can grant ya'll some peace in all of this. Forever is a mighty long time.



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