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The SEC and Dealing From the Bottom of the Deck
Posted on 11/13/12 at 12:36 pm
Posted on 11/13/12 at 12:36 pm
Article about scheduling teams:
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The SEC has 6 teams in the BCS top ten. SIX. And, I'd like to remind you, it's been popular to say that the SEC is down this year. Which begs the question, what the hell would happen if we were up?
The amazing this is that the top six teams have not lost a single game to any team other than each other. Also, it's a bit of a stroke of good fortune that the teams are balanced evenly between the two divisions: three in the East and three in the West. The SEC isn't just the dominant conference in college football, it also has balance. There's no one team padding their record against the Sisters of the Poor.
That said, there is a huge difference in the quality of schedules of the top teams. There are six elite SEC teams, divided equally between the two divisions. Given that the SEC only has two cross-divisional games, the most "elite level" games a team can play is four (two in the division, two cross-division). The least number of elite level games a team could play is two (two in the division, zero cross-division).
This post was edited on 11/13/12 at 2:10 pm
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Posted on 11/13/12 at 12:39 pm to CalTiger53
Mo money, mo problems.
Posted on 11/13/12 at 12:41 pm to CalTiger53
Rules is rules?
Posted on 11/13/12 at 12:56 pm to junkfunky
The same thing in 2013. LSU plays Fla and they recently scheduled LSU to play at Georgia. Alabama plays neither of them. Why they didn't assign Georgia to Alabama and Kentucky to LSU?
Posted on 11/13/12 at 12:59 pm to CalTiger53
100% agree with him.
Posted on 11/13/12 at 1:02 pm to CalTiger53
Then UGA would be bitching that they have to play LSU and Alabama
it's a circle
it's a circle
Posted on 11/13/12 at 1:04 pm to bmy
A royal screw job is what it is.
Posted on 11/13/12 at 1:05 pm to RonFNSwanson
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Then UGA would be bitching that they have to play LSU and Alabama
No, the other poster said:
LSU - Florida, Kentucky
Alabama - Tennessee, Georgia
Georgia - Auburn, Alabama
Posted on 11/13/12 at 1:21 pm to CalTiger53
The ravings of a lunatic. I am sure that there is absolutely no bias for or against any team when the schedules are rig..er, made. Specifically, there is no, I repeat no bias against LSU and certainly none in favor of 'Bama. 
Posted on 11/13/12 at 1:31 pm to CalTiger53
It is a bit odd that the scheduling for Georgia and Alabama for the past two years (2012 and 2011) was very different that that of LSU and Florida.
Not to be a homer or anything....but, it does seem rather lopsided, again. I have no problem playing Florida - I look forward to the game, but geez a little balance please. My issue with the scheduling is that it conceivable that we don't get to go to Colombia, MO for 11 years......come on man.
I like seeing KY, Vandy, TN, USC and the others every once in a while - not every decade.
Not to be a homer or anything....but, it does seem rather lopsided, again. I have no problem playing Florida - I look forward to the game, but geez a little balance please. My issue with the scheduling is that it conceivable that we don't get to go to Colombia, MO for 11 years......come on man.
I like seeing KY, Vandy, TN, USC and the others every once in a while - not every decade.
Posted on 11/13/12 at 1:39 pm to RonFNSwanson
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Then UGA would be bitching that they have to play LSU and Alabama
it's a circle
UGA wouldn't have a leg to fricking stand on - their schedule has been as big a joke as Bama. The circle has come and gone, and the SEC schedule makers are running laps around it.
Posted on 11/13/12 at 1:46 pm to CalTiger53
It's one thing to point out the obviousness of how disjointed this silly permanent opponent deal makes the SEC schedule...the real question is why it's allowed to continue? A few short weeks ago, after the 2013 schedule was released and LSU fans saw it for what it was, Joe Alleva was forced to address it in one of his e-mails. He stated something to the effect that LSU was against the permanent opponent set-up.
Well, that's awesome.
But so what? Given the fact the whole deal was put in place to appease TENN and BAMA, and a lesser extent UGA and AU, wouldn't that mean there were 8 teams (now 10) that see no real benefit from this system? Can the 10 not dictate to the 4, or are there other programs outside of those 4 which really LIKE the permanent opponent deal and vote with the BAMA/UT group?
IF LSU is the only program that doesn't like this, than I imagine we're screwed and will have to learn to like it. Are we?
Well, that's awesome.
But so what? Given the fact the whole deal was put in place to appease TENN and BAMA, and a lesser extent UGA and AU, wouldn't that mean there were 8 teams (now 10) that see no real benefit from this system? Can the 10 not dictate to the 4, or are there other programs outside of those 4 which really LIKE the permanent opponent deal and vote with the BAMA/UT group?
IF LSU is the only program that doesn't like this, than I imagine we're screwed and will have to learn to like it. Are we?
Posted on 11/13/12 at 1:50 pm to White Tiger
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White Tiger
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The ravings of a lunatic.
Ironic
Posted on 11/13/12 at 1:54 pm to GeauxTigerTM
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Given the fact the whole deal was put in place to appease TENN and BAMA, and a lesser extent UGA and AU, wouldn't that mean there were 8 teams (now 10) that see no real benefit from this system?
The simple solution is to move both Bama and Auburn to the east and move Kentucky and Missouri to the west - everybody should be pleased.
Posted on 11/13/12 at 1:55 pm to harry coleman beast
Someone finally noticed.
This post was edited on 11/13/12 at 1:56 pm
Posted on 11/13/12 at 2:00 pm to blueridgeTiger
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The simple solution is to move both Bama and Auburn to the east and move Kentucky and Missouri to the west - everybody should be pleased.
It makes geographic sense! And Auburn gets its old rivalries back!
Posted on 11/13/12 at 2:01 pm to GeauxTigerTM
quote:This. But, if OU- Nebraska and Texas-aTm can absolve their games, why can't Bama and Tennessee? Besides, is that a rivalry to anyone but those fan bases?
Given the fact the whole deal was put in place to appease TENN and BAMA, and a lesser extent UGA and AU,
Posted on 11/13/12 at 2:06 pm to GeauxTigerTM
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But so what? Given the fact the whole deal was put in place to appease TENN and BAMA, and a lesser extent UGA and AU, wouldn't that mean there were 8 teams (now 10) that see no real benefit from this system? Can the 10 not dictate to the 4
The problem is that most of the other 10 don't want to change either. They like having a permanent opponent from the other division that isn't a traditional power. Ole Miss wouldn't want to give up Vandy(or whoever their annual crossover is), Miss. St wouldn't want to lose Kentucky, etc. They see these as much more winnable games than if they had to rotate and get S Carolina, UGA, etc more often.
Posted on 11/13/12 at 2:07 pm to blueridgeTiger
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The simple solution is to move both Bama and Auburn to the east and move Kentucky and Missouri to the west - everybody should be pleased.
Honestly, the easiest solution is to tell BAMA/UT and UGA/AU to go frick themselves and their historic rivalries and get with the program. This is now a 14 team league...it doesn't belong to those 4 programs. What would be best for the league would be to end any and all permanent opponents so that cross division teams can be rotated equally. Somehow Nebraska and Oklahoma managed to put their historic rivalry aside for the betterment of the Big 12 when they switched divisions and the sun came up. I promise, if the third Saturday in October came and went and BAMA and UT didn't play...the world would not stop spinning. Same goes for UGA/AU.
And for those who puff up their chest and exclaim "I ain;t skeered!"...fine. But you are allowing yourselves to be baited into a shitty, unequal schedule because you're afraid of being called chicken. Why any LSU fan would be for this when the direct result benefits BAMA in that they get what they want (their little hate-fest game with UT) and they get the easier game making their road to Atlanta easier is beyond me.
Posted on 11/13/12 at 2:09 pm to GeauxTigerTM
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are there other programs outside of those 4 which really LIKE the permanent opponent deal and vote with the BAMA/UT group?
I'm fairly certain that Ole Miss-Vandy and MSU-Kentucky aren't bitching about playing each other every year. LSU wouldn't be bitching if our permanent opponent was Vandy either.
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