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re: Jimbo blast BCS rankings

Posted on 11/13/12 at 12:14 pm to
Posted by Archie Bengal Bunker
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Posted on 11/13/12 at 12:14 pm to
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He may have a point, but playing 2 FCS teams + an ACC schedule doesn't help.



I'm no scheduling wiz; so, I don't know who was available, but FSU had West Virginia on the slate. WV had to back out because of the new Big 12 deal; so, enter Savannah St. But, with the WV suck of the last 4 weeks, it wouldn't have been much of a boost anyways.
This post was edited on 11/13/12 at 2:45 pm
Posted by USMC Gators
Member since Oct 2011
14633 posts
Posted on 11/13/12 at 12:17 pm to
So y'all used WVU cancelling as an excuse to schedule the worst FCS team in the country?
Posted by ToesOnTheNose213
The present
Member since Oct 2007
2028 posts
Posted on 11/13/12 at 1:42 pm to
Is that a Gator fan railing on another team's OOC schedule?!
Posted by juff
Member since Oct 2012
1241 posts
Posted on 11/13/12 at 1:54 pm to
FSU has talent, but it would NOT be close if they played LSU or aTm. They need to fire Jimbo. He's never been a HC and gets the job at FSU. Unbelievable. There is a lot of animosity towards him here in Tallahassee.
Posted by AtlantaLSUfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2009
23019 posts
Posted on 11/13/12 at 2:12 pm to
Eyeball test? The human polls love fsu. It's the computers that think they suck.
Posted by TigerBait2008
Boulder,CO
Member since Jun 2008
32383 posts
Posted on 11/13/12 at 2:41 pm to
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They need to fire Jimbo. He's never been a HC and gets the job at FSU. Unbelievable. There is a lot of animosity towards him here in Tallahassee.


Wow, A BUNCH of stupid up in this post..


Posted by OBUDan
Chicago
Member since Aug 2006
40723 posts
Posted on 11/13/12 at 3:02 pm to
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Jimbo blast


quote:

eye test


quote:

do it


Posted by USMC Gators
Member since Oct 2011
14633 posts
Posted on 11/13/12 at 3:03 pm to
UF sos: 7
USC sos: 20

LINK

Posted by Archie Bengal Bunker
Member since Jun 2008
15520 posts
Posted on 11/13/12 at 4:12 pm to
quote:

So y'all used WVU cancelling as an excuse to schedule the worst FCS team in the country?


No, I am saying it was the catalyst for playing the worst FCS team. We had a solid [at the time] FBS school scheduled in WV. It was announced that WV waws backing out in January. I don't know how many if any FBS schools are still looking to fill a spot at that point. They may have been able to get a better FCS team, but FCS is FCS.
Posted by CajunCowboy35
Member since Feb 2012
646 posts
Posted on 11/13/12 at 4:49 pm to
Jimbo has now officially fallen off the deep end
Posted by Colonel Flagg
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2010
22776 posts
Posted on 11/13/12 at 5:52 pm to
I personally want a computer seeded playoff of conference champions. Human polls and the eye ball test are stupid.
Posted by TheOcean
#honeyfriedchicken
Member since Aug 2004
42453 posts
Posted on 11/13/12 at 7:46 pm to
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So y'all used WVU cancelling as an excuse to schedule the worst FCS team in the country?


Google the date they canceled on us. I believe we're still suing them. And yes they were about the only team we could schedule.
Posted by JPLSU1981
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2005
26233 posts
Posted on 11/13/12 at 8:24 pm to
FSU, much like Oklahoma st last year, is not going to be able to overcome an "ugly" loss.

Especially with the schedule they've played... FSU had a nice clean path to Miami and bungled it up by losing to NCState, and now they are paying the price for that "nice clean path."
Posted by trackfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2010
19691 posts
Posted on 11/13/12 at 8:59 pm to
His team plays in one of the weakest AQ conferences, he had two FCS teams on his schedule this year, including hapless Savannah State which should be in division II, and now he's whining because his team isn't getting any love from the BCS computers. He should be put in a straitjacket for even suggesting that college football go back to the pre-BCS system in which the #1 and #2 teams would routinely play in different bowls. When Bobby Bowden was the coach, FSU never played such a pathetic non-conference schedule.
Posted by trackfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2010
19691 posts
Posted on 11/13/12 at 9:04 pm to
quote:

They may have been able to get a better FCS team, but FCS is FCS.

Not true. The conmputers wouldn't have punished you as much if you had scheduled Appalachian State or Youngstown State.
Posted by trackfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2010
19691 posts
Posted on 11/13/12 at 9:29 pm to
Four of the six BCS computers' websites list strength of schedule. Here's how FSU's schedule is ranked so far.

88 (Anderson & Hester)
95 (Colley Matrix)
101 (Kenneth Massey)
90 (Jeff Sagarain)
Posted by maringer11
Member since Jan 2012
1189 posts
Posted on 11/13/12 at 9:43 pm to
Sounds like mark richt.
Posted by Dr RC
The Money Pit
Member since Aug 2011
58035 posts
Posted on 11/13/12 at 10:02 pm to
they lost to NC State...
Posted by Archie Bengal Bunker
Member since Jun 2008
15520 posts
Posted on 11/13/12 at 10:09 pm to
quote:

The conmputers wouldn't have punished you as much if you had scheduled Appalachian State or Youngstown State.


Can you quantify not much? One spot? 3 spots? As far as I know, only four of the six computer polls even count FCS teams. Two of those have FSU unranked, and the other two are 14th and 16th. If they played a solid FCS team, like say a 6-4 Towson squad, would they even be ranked in the polls that currently have them unranked?


The point is, some people are pointing to the OOC schedule, when that wasn't the problem. FSU had West Virginia, USF, and Florida scheduled. I'm sure the AD at FSU knows the ACC sucks, just happens that it is even more so this year. So, in addition to the UF staple, FSU usually has a at least one other solid OOC opponent on the schedule. West Virginia backed out late this year. But go ahead and blame the poor OOC. I'm sure FSU had FBS teams knocking down the door to play with <8 months notice. FSU was just scared.

Last 4 years' OOC schedule:

WV*, USF, and UF
OU and UF
OU, BYU, and UF
BYU, USF, and UF

This post was edited on 11/13/12 at 10:24 pm
Posted by trackfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2010
19691 posts
Posted on 11/14/12 at 7:09 am to
quote:

Can you quantify not much? One spot? 3 spots? As far as I know, only four of the six computer polls even count FCS teams. Two of those have FSU unranked, and the other two are 14th and 16th. If they played a solid FCS team, like say a 6-4 Towson squad, would they even be ranked in the polls that currently have them unranked?

Jeff Sagarin ranks North Dakota State #51, higher than eight ACC teams and ahead of 74 FBS teams overall. Savannah State is ranked #243, third to last of all FCS teams.
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