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re: Question about the direction of Tiger football

Posted on 11/4/12 at 1:18 pm to
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
259857 posts
Posted on 11/4/12 at 1:18 pm to
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SO LSU HAS to win A NC EVERY YEAR for you to be satisfied?????


An occasional one would be nice. I am ready to drop expectations though.
Posted by Stevo
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2004
11360 posts
Posted on 11/4/12 at 1:21 pm to
Posted by geauxjo
Gonzales, LA
Member since Sep 2004
14675 posts
Posted on 11/4/12 at 1:22 pm to
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Posted by diablo blanco Call me what you want, but these players deserve better than to lose games like the one last night and the NCG on January 9th because of his inept decisions.


Well then they shouldn't hit people after the play and they might ought a think about tackling somebody with a minute left to play. That would help.
Posted by DriveByBBQ
Willard's Garage
Member since Jan 2011
4608 posts
Posted on 11/4/12 at 1:27 pm to
I think the OP is trying to say "good is the enemy of great" I think LSU is fine...great game, hard fought, no major injuries...this is from a Bama fan....
Posted by Tony Camaro
Metry
Member since Sep 2003
545 posts
Posted on 11/4/12 at 1:28 pm to
We threw for almost 300 yards......how is that Big 10 like?
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
110579 posts
Posted on 11/4/12 at 1:40 pm to
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The future of our program is in the hands of a coach whose philosophy centers around a Big 10 football mentality
I've been hearing about the future of our program going downhill for 8 years now, and it's STILL not heading anywhere outside of a top 5, or even 2 or 3 program in the nation.

quote:

Is this what we want in a coach?

A coach who consistently keeps my team in the top 5 and gives my team a legit shot at a title every couple of few seasons and wins one here or there. Is that NOT what you want in a coach?
Posted by diablo blanco
Oakdale, Louisiana
Member since Dec 2007
1080 posts
Posted on 11/4/12 at 1:45 pm to
The 2011 and 2012 LSU football teams should have been hailed as two of the greatest teams in modern college football history. But, due to preventable circumstances, will not be.

Is that acceptable to you?
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
110579 posts
Posted on 11/4/12 at 1:50 pm to
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The 2011 and 2012 LSU football teams should have been hailed as two of the greatest teams in modern college football history
What?


Anytime you wanna join us in reality and a world of logic, come on and join us, we'll be waiting for you
Posted by CP3LSU25
Louisiana
Member since Feb 2009
51150 posts
Posted on 11/4/12 at 2:02 pm to
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We just went toe to toe with the number one team in the country


Why can't we be the number one team in the country.
Posted by jeff70121
Metairie
Member since Dec 2011
4312 posts
Posted on 11/4/12 at 2:07 pm to
To appreciate what Les has accomplished, one simply needs to look at next year's roster. Allow me to elaborate.

O - Line Chris Faulk, Lael Collins, Elliot Porter, Trai Turner, Vadal Alexander

TE - Nic Jacobs, Desean Smith

WR - Odel Beckham, Jarvis Landry, Kadron Boone

RB - Jeremy Hill, Alfred Blue, Kenny Hilliary (assuming Spencer Ware goes pro)

QB - Zach Mettenberger

Not Impressed???

D - Line Jamauria Rasco, Anthony Johson, Ego Ferguson, Danielle Hunter

LB - Kwon Alexander, Lamin Barrow, Tahj Jones(?), Lamar Louis, Ronnie Feist (assuming Kevin Minter goes pro)

DB's Jalen Mills, Jalen Collins, Ronnie Martin, Craig Loston (assuming Eric Reid & Tharold Simon go pro) with several others contributing including Micah Eugene

Still not impressed?

Another top 5 recruiting class for 2013 &
potentially a 10-2 record for 2012 as well as another top 5 finish

Not to mention Les's over 81% win/loss percentage, 1 NC W, 1 NC L, 3 SEC Championship Appearances 2 W 1 L -

These are the Golden Days of LSU Football. Anyone who criticizes Les's record or insists he be run out of town, hasn't lived through the 1980's & 1990's. Do a little history of LSU football.

My guess is we finish at 10-2, play in a non-BCS bowl, win that & end up in the final top 5 for 2012.

We start in the top 5 preseason rankings again for 2013.

I'm sure you expect an SEC Championship & NC every year. Most of us are more realistic. I hope Les finishes out his career at LSU. If he does he will enter the LSU Football History books as the "Greatest Coach in LSU History"!

So yes, this is what I want in coach.
Posted by Stevo
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2004
11360 posts
Posted on 11/4/12 at 2:17 pm to
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Why can't we be the number one team in the country.


we were for almost all of last year. You expect to be #1 all of the time?
Posted by JawjaTigah
Bizarro World
Member since Sep 2003
22495 posts
Posted on 11/4/12 at 2:21 pm to
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We just went toe to toe with the number one team in the country. The direction of the team is fine
You forgot to mention we lost the last two toe to toe meetings with that same team. You also overlooked a mention of coaching decisions as a major factor in both those losses. But if that's ok with you, to lose twice in a row to Alabama, claim a moral (statistical) victory over them like Tulane used to, or make excuses for very poor coaching decisions regularly costing LSU dearly and just rely on the old saw that "he's a great recruiter" (like no one else can recruit?), then you deserve what you get. Just sayin...
Posted by wolfman55h
Eunice LA
Member since Oct 2012
74 posts
Posted on 11/4/12 at 2:25 pm to
I agree. These are the golden days of LSU football. Is our head coach a genius? No, but players love him and he recruits like a mutha. We had prospects on that sideline last night from across the nation, and he's going to bag many of them.
Posted by LouisianaLonghorn
Austin, Texas
Member since Jan 2006
14155 posts
Posted on 11/4/12 at 2:26 pm to
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Hopefully Mett came into his own last night... this game will give him great confidence the rest of the way. Open it up like last night, we'll be fine.


That is the one positive that came out of last night. My only concern is that Miles may have opened up the offense this one time because it was Bama. He may decide to go back to the more conservative approach next week, despite the strides that Mettenberger made. There is no doubt that Mett does much better when we go with multiple wideouts over the 2 WR package that we had been running. Let's hope it continues.
Posted by JawjaTigah
Bizarro World
Member since Sep 2003
22495 posts
Posted on 11/4/12 at 2:26 pm to
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We are top five year in year out.
I don't know if you've noticed, but LSU has dropped in both polls to #9. Not significant, you say? Well where did we start off the preseason? And I know, there were some key injuries and all. But...
Posted by ForeLSU
The Corner of Sanity and Madness
Member since Sep 2003
41525 posts
Posted on 11/4/12 at 2:26 pm to
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You forgot to mention we lost the last two toe to toe meetings with that same team.


and won the previous two...are you suggesting that a coach should be able to completely eliminate the inevitable ebb and flow of the sport?
Posted by JawjaTigah
Bizarro World
Member since Sep 2003
22495 posts
Posted on 11/4/12 at 2:31 pm to
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and won the previous two...are you suggesting that a coach should be able to completely eliminate the inevitable ebb and flow of the sport?
I am looking at football dynasties like Spurrier's UF, Bowden's FSU, the Miami of yore, Bryant's Alabama (now Saban's). LSU began its serious stab at greatness under Saban, and it's continued under Miles to some degree. But the previous two wins, prior to the previous two losses to Alabama are "back in the day" already. What is in the immediate present (1/9/12 and 11/2/12) are what I'm noting. And that's current events. So IMO, until this two game loss streak to Alabama is reversed, I'll say "No, the direction of Tiger football is not all up and roses. There are major problems to address if we expect to remain among the present/future elites."
This post was edited on 11/4/12 at 2:33 pm
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
110579 posts
Posted on 11/4/12 at 2:59 pm to
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. And that's current events. So IMO, until this two game loss streak to Alabama is reversed, I'll say "No, the direction of Tiger football is not all up and roses.
That isn't remotely realistic. Not in the least.

You're not going to be #1 every year and win 4 titles every 5 years.

The previous poster was 100% correct with the ebb and flow of sports. You want to win em all. you strive to win em all. But you won't win em all.
Posted by Red Stick Tigress
Tiger Stadium
Member since Nov 2005
17845 posts
Posted on 11/4/12 at 3:05 pm to
I don't want Les to make STUPID gambles. Going for it on 4th and 1 isn't stupid. Had the snap not been bobbled, we'd have gotten the first. The onside kick didn't hurt us ONLY because BAMA fumbled. Les gave BAMA 2 short fields to work with and it gave them scores.

Les didn't have to gamble at all. He should have trusted his players. Mett was on top of his game. Defense was playing lights out. You don't fake a FG with 12 yards to go. You don't try to run on 3rd and 10.

Maybe if he'd concentrate on coaching instead of earwax...

Yeah, I'm still pissed and my 24 hours isn't up.

This post was edited on 11/4/12 at 3:07 pm
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
259857 posts
Posted on 11/4/12 at 3:07 pm to
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we were for almost all of last year. You expect to be #1 all of the time?


I did at the end of the year, yes. Not any more.

LSU has won one NC since 2003 which is great, but even that team tried to choke it away. My expectations are to go 10-2 from here on out, play in the Cotton or Cap One. Anything else will be gravy.
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