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Richard Dent: Ditka is the reason why the '80s Bears didn't win more Super Bowls

Posted on 10/31/12 at 7:24 pm
Posted by Bench McElroy
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Posted on 10/31/12 at 7:24 pm
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More than anything, Mike didn't manage that quarterback position," Dent said on WSCR-670 (AM). "Bringing Doug Flutie in and thinking that he's gonna come in and be on a team for three weeks and start him in a playoff game? Hell, I mean you're trying to change the name on the Super Bowl trophy to Mike Ditka (from) Vince Lombardi when you do something like that.

"We had won with Tomczak and Fuller. That's all we needed to do is stay with that plan. Then you bring a guy off the street."

Ditka defended his decision to start Flutie.

"Could we have won more? Of course, we could have, but we didn't," he said. " I thought the move to get Flutie -- I don't care what the results were -- was a great move. Doug Flutie was a winner. He was a winner his whole career. He was a tough guy, he played good. ... At the moment we made those decisions, we thought they were the right decisions."

Dent thought that Bears team could have won multiple Super Bowls.

"And we came back three years in a row and had home-field advantage," Dent said. "Our coach couldn't figure out the right quarterback to play. The disappointing part to me is that we only got one out of it. We should have been the first team ever to win three Super Bowls in a row. It was there for the taking, but we didn't manage that one position right.


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Posted by TT9
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Posted on 10/31/12 at 7:25 pm to
Sounds like the former Braves throwing Cox under the bus for not winning more world series's.
Posted by gizmoflak
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Posted on 10/31/12 at 7:28 pm to
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I don't care what the results were -- was a great move. Doug Flutie was a winner. He was a winner his whole career. He was a tough guy, he played good.


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Posted on 10/31/12 at 7:36 pm to
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Posted by Kafka
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Posted on 10/31/12 at 7:41 pm to
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Posted by Bestbank Tiger
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Posted on 10/31/12 at 7:45 pm to
Yeah, Joe Montana had nothing to do with it.
Posted by 4LSU2
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Posted on 10/31/12 at 7:47 pm to
When asked who is the best team of all-time, 85 Bears are always in the conversation.

Dent should STFU and appreciate being part of something special.
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Posted on 10/31/12 at 7:47 pm to
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Posted by LSU Tammany Tiger
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Posted on 10/31/12 at 7:58 pm to
This doesn't surprise me, Ditka is an idiot.
He fricking ruined the Saints with his dumb arse trade for RW. It's a joke that he and Matt Millen
are "experts" on TV
Posted by Kafka
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Posted on 10/31/12 at 8:01 pm to
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Posted by H-Town Tiger
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Posted on 10/31/12 at 8:03 pm to
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Yeah, Joe Montana had nothing to do with it.


Not really. The Bears brought in Flutie in 86. The 49er's lost to the NYG 49-3 in the first round.
Posted by sms151t
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Posted on 10/31/12 at 8:07 pm to
Wasn't 86 the year Burt knocked Montana out? And the Giants had home field?

Also if iirc the trade of McMahon in 87/88 was what allowed Flutie to come in then he went to NE with Mac.
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Posted on 10/31/12 at 8:16 pm to
:rofl:
Posted by saintsfan22
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Posted on 10/31/12 at 8:16 pm to
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This doesn't surprise me, Ditka is an idiot.
He fricking ruined the Saints with his dumb arse trade for RW.

To be fair he had already made them pretty shitty before that trade.
Posted by H-Town Tiger
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Posted on 10/31/12 at 8:26 pm to
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Wasn't 86 the year Burt knocked Montana out? And the Giants had home field?


I think that's right. Montana also missed half that season with a back injury. They were so concerned about his future that they traded for Steve Young that off season.

Funny how when people look back they think SF was the team of the decade, Montana was the GOAT and assume they dominated every year. In reality after losing to Minnesota in the 87 playoff's, there was talk they should start Young in 88. That year it was debated whether SF or Wash would be the team of the decade. 11 games into the 88 season they were 6-5. They finished 10-6, tied with the Saints and Rams, but SF won the 3 team tie breaker. They wouldn't have even made the playoffs with out Young winning the Minnesota game with his great 49 yd TD run. But they did and Montana hit John Taylor for the Super Bowl winning TD.
This post was edited on 10/31/12 at 8:54 pm
Posted by Zamoro10
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Posted on 10/31/12 at 8:34 pm to
Tomczack sucked always (especially in '86 2 Tds with 10 Ints)

Bears D lost that playoff game.

Jay Schroeder of all people (as a Raiders fan I know - "Jay Schroeder can look like a combination of Roger Staubach and Joe Montana one time and a combination of Laurel and Hardy another--sometimes in the same game." - Jim Murray) drove the Skins the length of the field to victory at the end.

Posted by tigerbait3488
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Posted on 10/31/12 at 8:34 pm to
Ditka thought danny weurffel and the 2 billy joes were good qbs. Ditka knows about as much about the qb position as les miles. Clueless
Posted by BeachDude022
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Posted on 10/31/12 at 8:36 pm to
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Doug Flutie was a winner. He was a winner his whole career.


If I'm not mistaken, he said that exact same thing about Danny Wuerrfel and we see how that turned out.
Posted by RollTide1987
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Posted on 10/31/12 at 8:42 pm to
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and 1 play after throwing a pass that a Bengals DB dropped, Montana hit John Taylor for the Super Bowl winning TD.



I don't know game you are remembering but that's not how it happened. Montana only missed one pass on that final drive and that pass was thrown out of bounds because no one was open. He hit Rice down to the 20, Craig down to the 10, and then Taylor in the back of the end zone for the go ahead touchdown.

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And Montana did not play in that playoff game in 1986. That's probably why they lost so bad to the Bears.

Posted by Zamoro10
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Posted on 10/31/12 at 8:44 pm to
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Funny how when people look back they think SF was the team of the decade, Montana was the GOAT and assume they dominated every year.


81 - SB Champs
83 - Lost NFC Title game
84 - SB Champs
85 - Lost Wildcard playoff
86 - Lost Division playoff (Montana knocked out)
87 - Lost Division playoff
88 - SB Champs
89 - SB Champs

90 - Lost NFC Title Game (the Roger Craig fumble while running out the clock to victory.)

4 SB Titles
6 NFC Title game appearances
Playoffs every year except the strike year of '82

To be fair, I'd say that's pretty dominant in a league so full of parity like the NFL.
This post was edited on 10/31/12 at 8:45 pm
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