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GumboBurrito
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NO dude. Again it is my major and it is what i love most. I dont need to link things. And you have a fundamental misunderstand of Erie. And i find it disgusting how you are misusing Justice Brandeis. He was a sharp guy and even wrote in his opinion in Erie things that refute what you are saying. Im not gonna link them because honestly you arent worth the time. Again, i wouldnt argue with you about engineering because i dont know shite about it. You should take that hint.


Tigerdroppings Fact Check: Well guys, we are going to have to label this one as an opinion, thus we can't guarantee it's truth. If this person could provide some supporting evidence or a source that backs up his claims, then we may be able to verify it's authenticity. Until we receive that evidence, we have to mark it as inconclusive at best.






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el Gaucho
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re: Plans to ban tourists from smoking weed in Netherlands nixed


i used to have an N64!





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Breesus
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then paraphrase. thanks



For you Rouge, I will.

It's been a few years, but here you go.

Erie was about uniformity of laws in federal courts, and whether or not federal courts should adopt the laws in each state in which the court sits and the case is heard or if there should be a federal code of procedure and statutes that are uniform and above state codes and statutes when an issue is brought in federal court. This was done in the court system in order to curb things such as forum shopping (stemming from a previous decision Swift v someone i cant remember.) In his opinion Justice Brandeis says (paraphrased) Federal courts have no power to declare rules of law applicable to a state. It doesnt matter if they are general or specific and no where in the constitution does the federal government have the ability or authority to do so.

The government used interstate commerce clause in that case, correctly in my opinion, to justify a uniformity of laws in the federal court system in cases that involve disputes between people domiciled in different states.



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GumboBurrito


Actually, it's very simple. You'd probably be annoyed if a political science major tried to argue with you about control systems or CAD. It's no different here.

Add in the fact that Breesus and I provided examples of how the Fed has overstepped its bounds throughout history, and you either ignored or dismissed them.






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GumboBurrito
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Although the Erie decision itself does not identify specific provisions of the Constitution violated by Swift, the language of the decision implies that Swift had stolen powers reserved to the states, in violation of the Tenth Amendment. Justice Brandeis also noted problems for equal protection of the laws, but the Equal Protection Clause of the Fourteenth Amendment applies only to states, and the Fifth Amendment's Due Process Clause was not read to include an equal protection component until the 1954 decision in Bolling v. Sharpe.

As a result of Erie, each federal district court was required to apply the law of whichever state it was sitting in, as though it was a state court of that state. Of course, this was a very difficult decision for the Court, since overruling Swift meant that a huge number of decisions by the Court and all lower federal courts were no longer valid law.

However, the Court did not declare the Rules of Decision Act itself unconstitutional. Instead, it reinterpreted the Act so federal district courts hearing cases in diversity jurisdiction had to apply the entire law, both statutory and judge-made, of the states in which they sit.



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GumboBurrito
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Add in the fact that Breesus and I provided examples of how the Fed has overstepped its bounds throughout history, and you either ignored or dismissed them.


But you haven't provided a single shred of supporting evidence. Please link me to someone more credible than yourself that agrees with you. Otherwise, it's just your opinion and not a fact. If a non-engineer attempted to argue with me, I'd just link him directly to the science, math, and facts to support my claims and be on my merry way.



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lordguill
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Nice copy and paste job.





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GumboBurrito
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Nice copy and paste job.


I'm trying to show these fools how easy it is to provide evidence. I'm not even trying to argue with them. I just want some proof for their claims. That's all.



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lordguill
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Otherwise, it's just your opinion and not a fact.


Yes, it IS my opinion that the Dred Scott and and Homer Plessy cases were wrong. I'll go out on a limb and guess that many scholars agree with me.






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GumboBurrito
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Yes, it IS my opinion that the Dred Scott and and Homer Plessy cases were wrong. I'll go out on a limb and guess that many scholars agree with me.


Thank you. It is your opinion. That's all I wanted to hear.






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Breesus
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I'll go out on a limb and guess that many scholars agree with me.



Name them all or you are lying






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GumboBurrito
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Name them all or you are lying


Difference is, he openly admits it is an opinion. He can say whatever he wants. You on the other hand...






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HFMH1
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re: Plans to ban tourists from smoking weed in Netherlands nixed


All credibility was lost on this when wiki came into play.





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Breesus
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You on the other hand...





Vehemently claim as fact that the federal government has been wrong before and has overstepped its boundaries before. Yes i claim that as fact. It isnt an opinion.






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GumboBurrito
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All credibility was lost on this when wiki came into play.



How so?

If you can quote the encyclopedia, you can quote Wikipedia. They even studied and found Wikipedia is as accurate as any encyclopedia in print.






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GumboBurrito
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Vehemently claim as fact that the federal government has been wrong before and has overstepped its boundaries before. Yes i claim that as fact. It isnt an opinion.


Tigerdroppings Fact Check: Again, we have a statement without a single source to back it up. We also see no evidence that supports this argument. We are going to have to chalk this up as an opinion. Thus not a fact. We can't rely on opinions unfortunately.






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Breesus
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Again, we have a statement without a single source to back it up. We also see no evidence that supports this argument. We are going to have to chalk this up as an opinion. Thus not a fact. We can't rely on opinions unfortunately.




You think it's opinion that the governemnt has overstepped its bounds and been wrong before?
Slavery comes to mind. As does the trail or tears.






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HFMH1
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this means you have no views or beliefs on your own. you hear someones side of an argument, then wiki it to make yourself look good when you have no fricking clue as to what you are talking about and try to justify yourself as being right.





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GumboBurrito
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You think it's opinion that the governemnt has overstepped its bounds and been wrong before?
Slavery comes to mind. As does the trail or tears.


My opinion doesn't matter, which is why I haven't provided a single opinion FOR or AGAINST the government overstepping it's bounds. I am only concerned with you backing up your statement, which I can't accept as accurate unless you provide some evidence to support it.

I could just as easily say, "Well there are tons of people that argue the government doesn't have enough power." It doesn't mean I'm correct.






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HFMH1
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So if you ever have an engineering question about a bridge or your house, let one of us know and we will wikipedia it for you, and if it isnt what you think is right YOU will still be in the wrong because we will have documentation aka retardapedia





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