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Hiking Pack for my son in Scouts and one for me

Posted on 10/24/12 at 10:51 am
Posted by Geecubed
The Eventual St. George
Member since Apr 2011
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Posted on 10/24/12 at 10:51 am
My son is in Boy Scouts, and of course they go camping at least once a month, and usually take a hike while camping. He is the only scout without a hiking pack, because in Cub Scouts, there wasn't much hiking being done.

I wouldn't say I am looking for bottom-of-the-line, but I can't throw down $500 or $600 for packs for my son and me. Anyone have any experiences with certain packs? Packs to stay away from?

TIA

ETA: Also, I read somewhere that I shouldn't go over 4000 cu.in. in space in a pack, and that I should go internal frame. Opinions?
This post was edited on 10/24/12 at 11:36 am
Posted by Chris4x4gill2
North Alabama
Member since Nov 2008
3092 posts
Posted on 10/24/12 at 11:00 am to
Hiking as in a day trip or a few hours? or hiking as in backpacking in to a campsite?
Posted by wickowick
Head of Island
Member since Dec 2006
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Posted on 10/24/12 at 11:02 am to
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Posted by LSUtiger17
New Orleans
Member since Mar 2009
3081 posts
Posted on 10/24/12 at 11:05 am to
Someone here will be able to give you much better advice than me, but you can start looking at REI.com to check a few out. You should be able to get one for >$200.
Posted by Geecubed
The Eventual St. George
Member since Apr 2011
425 posts
Posted on 10/24/12 at 11:34 am to
It will usually be backpacking to a campsite off the beaten trail.
Posted by Hermit Crab
Under the Sea
Member since Nov 2008
7161 posts
Posted on 10/24/12 at 11:39 am to
get one big enough to fit his stuff and not any bigger. let all the other people carry the pots, tents, stoves, food, etc.
Posted by Geecubed
The Eventual St. George
Member since Apr 2011
425 posts
Posted on 10/24/12 at 11:43 am to
That other person will most likely be me. Honestly this is much more overwhelming than I thought it would be. I can get him one that is smaller, that should last him until at least he is 15 or so. But I guess I am worried that my pack will either be WAY TOO BIG or too small to carry everything.
Posted by Chris4x4gill2
North Alabama
Member since Nov 2008
3092 posts
Posted on 10/24/12 at 11:52 am to
Read up on what to look for / how to choose a backpack. Its been a long time since I did much hiking so I cant say what to look for in the new packs really.

Start with REI's article here:

LINK

Soudns like you are lookijng for a 80L pack for yourself

"
Packs 80L and larger are also usually the preferred choice for:


•Winter treks lasting more than 1 night.
•Adults taking young children backpacking. Mom and Dad wind up carrying a lot of kids' gear to make the experience enjoyable for their young ones."

Posted by Creamer
louisiana
Member since Jul 2010
2817 posts
Posted on 10/24/12 at 11:54 am to
Go to a local shop and figure out what volume pack you want first. Then go to steepandcheap.com and wait till a pack you want shows up.
Posted by Geecubed
The Eventual St. George
Member since Apr 2011
425 posts
Posted on 10/24/12 at 11:55 am to
Appreciate the info greatly, guys. Thank you.
Posted by yallallcrazy
Member since Oct 2007
761 posts
Posted on 10/24/12 at 11:56 am to
Got 2 in Scouts. One just got back from Philmont.

I'd go internal frame, 4000-5000cu in.

Most of the kids have just an Academy version Kelty or the like. That will do everything you need it to do unless he goes on a big 'high adventure'. If he does that, he likely will need a new fresh pack anyway. We got a new one before Philmont simply to have a less "smellable" pack, though in all honesty it wasn't much different than the Academy pack we had.
Posted by Creamer
louisiana
Member since Jul 2010
2817 posts
Posted on 10/24/12 at 12:04 pm to
Definitely go for the internal framed packs. I have an 80 L kelty that I have gone on 2 week trips with. It should be plenty large even if you have to carry most of the stuff.
Posted by Geecubed
The Eventual St. George
Member since Apr 2011
425 posts
Posted on 10/24/12 at 12:11 pm to
My boy just passed his Tenderfoot Court of Honor. I think the scout has to be 15 to go to Philmont? He can't wait!

Do you guys worry about the internal water bladder, or just carry canteens or bottles?
Posted by 007mag
Death Valley, Sec. 408
Member since Dec 2011
3873 posts
Posted on 10/24/12 at 12:13 pm to
quote:

Honestly this is much more overwhelming than I thought it would be
Luckily I convinced my son that Cubscouts were for city kids to learn how to do the stuff lil rednecks do everyday and he got out. Trust me when I say scout parents are as obsessive as sports parents. My wife was a Den mother that's just another word for free weekend daycare.
Posted by tree
Harvey, LA
Member since Jan 2008
496 posts
Posted on 10/24/12 at 12:19 pm to
osprey packs are the best value for money and are so comfortable its insane. cost about 150-250. depending on pack. Feels like you arent really carrying anything with their support technology.
Posted by Geecubed
The Eventual St. George
Member since Apr 2011
425 posts
Posted on 10/24/12 at 12:19 pm to
quote:

007mag


I tend to agree about the city kids learning to do redneck things. I wish I honestly had time to teach my boy everything that my dad taught me. Unfortunately, due to scheduling conflicts (both in the immediate family and outside the immediate family), I don't have the time to take him every weekend, or every other weekend to go hunting, camping, fishing, or other outdoors things I would like to do with him.
Posted by Hermit Crab
Under the Sea
Member since Nov 2008
7161 posts
Posted on 10/24/12 at 12:24 pm to
quote:

I think the scout has to be 15 to go to Philmont


When I went it was 14 or finishing the 8th grade. Think I turned 14 while I was there that summer. Went the next summer too.

I typically used the water bladder and left it in the top section of the pack so it was easier to get to and wasn't being squeezed. It's been 10 years since my last hike though.
Posted by yallallcrazy
Member since Oct 2007
761 posts
Posted on 10/24/12 at 12:48 pm to
No bladder. Camelback and a Nalgene bottle or two.
And, yes, 15 was the age limit.
Posted by yallallcrazy
Member since Oct 2007
761 posts
Posted on 10/24/12 at 12:52 pm to
Don't confuse Cub Scouts and Boy Scouts.
My boys did both, but Cubs was largely a waste and is not necessary for entering Boy Scouts.
Boy Scouts, if the troop is well run, is a totally different story. They learn a lot, and they do it on their own. Outdoor skills, one weekend a month in the woods even when dad can't go, and self- motivation and leadership.

Posted by Geecubed
The Eventual St. George
Member since Apr 2011
425 posts
Posted on 10/24/12 at 12:56 pm to
quote:

self- motivation and leadership


This is big for me. My son has a lot to learn about these two, and he just won't listen to me about them.
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