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The Lingering Meltdown Explained

Posted on 10/10/12 at 1:32 pm
Posted by SBC
Member since Oct 2005
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Posted on 10/10/12 at 1:32 pm
I was trying to figure out why the board was still in meltdown and more importantly why last week's loss was still bothering me. I am usually over these things by Mon/Tues at the latest.

The reason seems to me to be that we haven't had this type of week in nearly 3 years. The last loss we had where we played the next week was the Ole Miss debacle in Nov. 2009 (played Ark the next week). We did lose to Auburn in October 2010, but had a bye the following week.

IMHO, losses at the end of a season in a bowl game or to Arkansas are different because the season is over and there is no forward projecting. This is the first week in a long while that we have to pontificate about what a mid-season loss means to our remaining season and the agony of that is clearly too much for the average rantard.

Probably too much logic for the rant, but glad that it has been 3 years since we played the week after a loss.

Here's to a big win for the Tigers this weekend to make everyone feel better again.

This post was edited on 10/10/12 at 1:34 pm
Posted by SOCAL TIGER
SOCAL
Member since Jan 2005
10721 posts
Posted on 10/10/12 at 1:39 pm to
The lingering meltdown can be explained by the lingering of poor coaching, poor play calling and many years of frustration. We have had a number of debacles over the years but the constant blame of player performance (JJ, JL) is now exposed as Miles refusing to make decent offensive game plans. METT was advertised as a savior and now we can all see that the problem is not the players but the coaching or lack their of.
This post was edited on 10/10/12 at 2:32 pm
Posted by Papa Tigah
TIGER ISLAND, LA
Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 10/10/12 at 1:41 pm to
Posted by SBC
Member since Oct 2005
6868 posts
Posted on 10/10/12 at 1:41 pm to
Sweet, so the lingering 80 - 19 record doesn't matter.....awesome.
Posted by Rohan2Reed
Member since Nov 2003
75674 posts
Posted on 10/10/12 at 1:42 pm to
quote:

METT was advertised as a savior and now we can all see that the problem is not the players but the coaching or lack their of.


ha. I wonder who's to blame for that?
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
89476 posts
Posted on 10/10/12 at 1:44 pm to
quote:

Sweet, so the lingering 80 - 19 record doesn't matter.....awesome.


Saban's players, lucky doofus, LSU recruits itself, blah, blah, blah.

What can you say about people who do not know their own history and cannot (or will not) understand what it takes to coach an SEC team through 80 victories?

October 9, 1993 - Never forget!
Posted by lsufan251875
Member since Jul 2008
3159 posts
Posted on 10/10/12 at 1:45 pm to
When LSU lost to auburn in 2010 we had a bye then Bama. The rant was predicting a bad loss to them.
Posted by shang1
Baton Rouge, La
Member since Jul 2012
621 posts
Posted on 10/10/12 at 1:51 pm to
Most of us fans are frickin tired of going on now 4 years without an offense. Or better, an offensive that is not a national embarassment. We done had enough of this bull shite. The captain is in charge of the ship.
Posted by bdnc
Member since Dec 2011
939 posts
Posted on 10/10/12 at 1:53 pm to
Tiger fans have been dealing with the same ineptitude for years, so the Florida debacle, albeit a great defensive effort, leaves many LSU fans wondering what the frick is going on? Even worse, the offensive display Saturday has left all the College Pundits seeing LSU as having a greater problem than just re-shuffling QBs. Throw in the penalties and one can only assume, as is the consensus, that lack of talent is not the problem. If the same shite happens again, i.e., 42 yards rushing and 1 of 13 in 3rd down conversions, against SC, this Tiger Rant may crash.
Posted by Teddy Ruxpin
Member since Oct 2006
39553 posts
Posted on 10/10/12 at 1:57 pm to
quote:

When LSU lost to auburn in 2010


This loss didn't really bother me, because as I remember it, Auburn was just better than us and we played pretty well, just could not stop Cam Newton and no one could.

I don't mind losing to a team that beats us as long as we play well and to our potential, and I felt like we did that against Auburn that year.

This loss was bad because our offense looked completely slapdick.
This post was edited on 10/10/12 at 1:58 pm
Posted by biglego
Ask your mom where I been
Member since Nov 2007
76169 posts
Posted on 10/10/12 at 1:58 pm to
You nailed it. Many fans have lost patience with the offense. Last year the dream season was ruined bc of the offense and we all hoped the team would roar back with vengeance and a passing attack and neither has happened. Many fans are letdown bc expectations were so high.
Posted by MountainTiger
The foot of Mt. Belzoni
Member since Dec 2008
14661 posts
Posted on 10/10/12 at 2:05 pm to
quote:

The lingering meltdown can be explained by the lingering of porr coaching, poor play calling and many years of frustration. We have had a number of debacles over the years but the constant blame of player performance (JJ, JL) is now exposed as Miles refusing to make decent offensive game plans. METT was advertised as a savior and now we can all see that the problem is not the players but the coaching or lack their of.

Mett wasn't advertised as anything. We as LSU fans put him up on that pedestal and annointed him the savior of the program. It was our expectations that created the hype and now he's not living up to those expectations. That's our fault not his.
Posted by bdnc
Member since Dec 2011
939 posts
Posted on 10/10/12 at 2:06 pm to
Usually the opposing team looks at the LSU players and say to themselves, “we’re fricked.” The opposing coach looks across the field and sees Les Miles and says, “we’ve got a chance"
Posted by SBC
Member since Oct 2005
6868 posts
Posted on 10/10/12 at 2:11 pm to
quote:

The opposing coach looks across the field and sees Les Miles and says, “we’ve got a chance"


How many opposing coaches have you talked to?
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
46620 posts
Posted on 10/10/12 at 2:14 pm to
quote:

The lingering meltdown can be explained by the lingering of porr coaching, poor play calling and many years of frustration. We have had a number of debacles over the years but the constant blame of player performance (JJ, JL) is now exposed as Miles refusing to make decent offensive game plans. METT was advertised as a savior and now we can all see that the problem is not the players but the coaching or lack their of.



Playcalling? It's common knowledge that if the players execute , any play can be successful, but continue to use the coaches as a scapegoat. It's funny that Miles barely got any credit for curb stomping the SEC, PAC 12 champ and big east champ, yet when we finally lose a game, IT'S ALL HIS FAULT. He gets zero credit for giving LSU it's greatest season in SEC play but every bit for losing by one score , on the road, to a top 10 team.
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
89476 posts
Posted on 10/10/12 at 2:16 pm to
quote:

Playcalling? It's common knowledge that if the players execute , any play can be successful, but continue to use the coaches as a scapegoat. It's funny that Miles barely got any credit for curb stomping the SEC, PAC 12 champ and big east champ, yet when we finally lose a game, IT'S ALL HIS FAULT. He gets zero credit for giving LSU it's greatest season in SEC play but every bit for losing by one score , on the road, to a top 10 team.


The negas with an agenda (i.e. anti-Miles) already know this and the rest of the negas won't understand it. Are there problems? Yes. Can we talk about them rationally, intelligently? Apparently not on the Rant, not any more.

80 wins versus 19 losses - meh - anybody can do it (except nobody ever has).

Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
46620 posts
Posted on 10/10/12 at 2:17 pm to
quote:

This loss was bad because our offense looked completely slapdick.


This is what happens when you lose 3 Olineman an your best all around rb. Faulk was a huge loss we've ran behind him for two years. Also the wr not doing things that they learn in peewee. You posters faulting the coach for drops and things like this is dumb. Div 1 wr coaches don't practice securing the ball once you catch it. They also shouldn't have to run drills on catching the ball after the season has started and definitely not to upper class men.
Posted by nofear67
Houston
Member since Jan 2006
2285 posts
Posted on 10/10/12 at 2:25 pm to
quote:

METT was advertised as a savior and now we can all see that the problem is not the players but the coaching or lack their of.

WTF are you talking about? The problems with LSU are collective and in no way is singular to coaching. Here are my observations:

1. The players display minimal emotion.
2. The players and coaches look unprepared to execute the game plan.
3. Mett is still a work in progress. He has the physical tools but seems to lack in areas that require more game time experience.

Those are just some observations but the number 1 issue dogging LSU football this season is LSU cannot run the football in the same physical and consistent manner as in years past.
Posted by Pauldean
Red Stick by way of Syracuse
Member since Oct 2011
2629 posts
Posted on 10/10/12 at 2:27 pm to
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Posted by Pauldean
Red Stick by way of Syracuse
Member since Oct 2011
2629 posts
Posted on 10/10/12 at 2:28 pm to
quote:

METT was advertised as a savior


Negative. He was elevated to savior. By many here on this message board...
This post was edited on 10/10/12 at 2:29 pm
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