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re: USC concussion test - to allow Robert Woods back in the game

Posted on 10/9/12 at 1:52 pm to
Posted by yurintroubl
Dallas, Tx.
Member since Apr 2008
30161 posts
Posted on 10/9/12 at 1:52 pm to
Why do I get the feeling that third question went something like...

quote:

What is 100 minus 7?

100 what?

Minus 7


107

MINUS 7.

:blink:

Yeah - He's good.

Posted by alajones
Huntsvegas
Member since Oct 2005
34451 posts
Posted on 10/9/12 at 1:57 pm to
Lane Kiffen more than likely had nothing to do with what the trainers were doing. He has other things to concentrate on.
Posted by ctalati32
Member since Sep 2007
4060 posts
Posted on 10/9/12 at 1:58 pm to
quote:

quote:

after he staggered, wobbled, spun and then collapsed face-first at midfield


I guess people think this makes it a concussion???

cause it doesn't fwiw

you can be knocked loopy without sustaining a concussion......that's why they have test

and this test was/is fine. no different than what is the score or what quarter is it

if he answered the 3 ?'s spot on what's the issue???


actually the American Academy of Neurology defines a concussion as "a trauma-induced alteration in mental status that may or may not involve loss of consciousness." (Source LINK)
So his loss of balance and inability to run back to the side line is technically a concussion...

Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
259898 posts
Posted on 10/9/12 at 1:59 pm to
quote:

If he answered 100-7-7-7 without hesitation, then it is HIGHLY doubtful he had a concussion.


I watched the game, he definitely had a concussion or some type of head injury..
This post was edited on 10/9/12 at 2:00 pm
Posted by rockchlkjayhku11
Cincinnati, OH
Member since Aug 2006
36449 posts
Posted on 10/9/12 at 2:29 pm to
yeah i got one in high school after getting elbowed in the face and failed pretty quickly questions were quite similar though
Posted by Hazelnut
Member since May 2011
16431 posts
Posted on 10/9/12 at 2:33 pm to
quote:

man it would take me some time right now to answer 100-7-7-7 in my head.

alright so its 93 minus 7 umm 86? minus 7.. ughh 79? minus another 7.. 72?


Or you can just add up all the 7s and subtract the sum (21) from 100.
Posted by Pedro
Geaux Hawks
Member since Jul 2008
33370 posts
Posted on 10/9/12 at 2:36 pm to
Yea I had one when I was 11 and remember being asked questions easier than that and failing hard.
Posted by Dijkstra
Michael J. Fox's location in time.
Member since Sep 2007
8738 posts
Posted on 10/9/12 at 3:22 pm to
Have any of you guys who are questioning this ever got a concussion? You damn sure aren't answering those quickly. If he could answer them decently quick, I'd say he was fine. I wouldn't have been able to spell my name if they'd have asked me.

quote:

Or you can just add up all the 7s and subtract the sum (21) from 100.

This is not happening with a real concussion. Not within a timespan that is considered alright to play again.
This post was edited on 10/9/12 at 3:24 pm
Posted by PsychTiger
Member since Jul 2004
98718 posts
Posted on 10/9/12 at 3:32 pm to
Serial 7's (100-7-7-7) is actually a good cognitive screening task. People with brain abnormalities really struggle with it. Though if there are other indications of a potential injury, such as balance problems, further testing beyond these few screening items should be done.
Posted by EastcoastEER
South Carolina
Member since Nov 2011
332 posts
Posted on 10/9/12 at 3:35 pm to
Would love to know what the Texas docs asked Goodwin after he got knocked the fugg out in the 2nd quarter against us. Dude was out cold before he hit the ground and was back in the game after halftime.

ETA: he caught UT's final touchdown as well
This post was edited on 10/9/12 at 3:38 pm
Posted by rballa19
Lake Charles, LA
Member since Oct 2009
4379 posts
Posted on 10/9/12 at 3:40 pm to
When I was in high school our first baseman got hit hard having to come across the bag to catch a throw, and his head just bounced on the ground when he hit. He said he was fine.

The next inning our pitcher got in trouble so we brought the first baseman in to pitch and he struck out the side

While were batting in the top of the inning he comes and ask me who's pitching, and had to tell him he was and that he was doing pretty good. We ended up losing and it was a playoff game and he was a senior, and on our way home he asked me two different times I we had won or lost. He cried both times after I told him we lost, it was pretty sad.
Posted by JB Bama
Tuscaloosa, AL
Member since Sep 2008
2669 posts
Posted on 10/9/12 at 3:44 pm to
Ok, so to be clear if I struggle with which sideline my team is on and have difficulty walking upright, but I can calculate some simple math after a head to head collision I'm good to go.
This post was edited on 10/9/12 at 3:45 pm
Posted by PsychTiger
Member since Jul 2004
98718 posts
Posted on 10/9/12 at 3:54 pm to
Those would be some of the other potential signs I was talking about. Don't be dense.
Posted by Dr RC
The Money Pit
Member since Aug 2011
58035 posts
Posted on 10/9/12 at 4:11 pm to
quote:

When I was in high school our first baseman got hit hard having to come across the bag to catch a throw, and his head just bounced on the ground when he hit. He said he was fine.

The next inning our pitcher got in trouble so we brought the first baseman in to pitch and he struck out the side

While were batting in the top of the inning he comes and ask me who's pitching, and had to tell him he was and that he was doing pretty good.

We ended up losing and it was a playoff game and he was a senior, and on our way home he asked me two different times I we had won or lost. He cried both times after I told him we lost, it was pretty sad.



and that sounds like my third and final concussion.

I got blindsided on kickoff coverage as I was going to try and break the wedge near the end of our next to last game of the year. Teammates said I claimed I was fine even though I didn't get up for a few seconds.

later at dinner, they said I went through the cafeteria line, picked up my food, set it down at our table and wandered off. 10 minutes later I came back with a second tray with the exact same stuff and got pissed that somebody (as in me) was sitting in my chair and started bitching at them for not saving me spot and for running to dinner and leaving me behind.

Two of them had to drag me to the nurse to get checked out b/c I didn't believe that I had gotten dinner twice. (this was at a prep school if any are wondering why we were having dinner at the school cafeteria)

I'm really lucky I had friends like that b/c who knows how badly I could have messed myself up if I had tried to go to practice that week.

This happened right around when Aikman was making news for all his concussions which helped me decide it wasn't worth the risk to play my senior season since that was my 3rd in 2 years of playing and my 2nd that season.
This post was edited on 10/9/12 at 4:16 pm
Posted by LfcSU3520
Arizona
Member since Dec 2003
24466 posts
Posted on 10/10/12 at 1:50 am to
quote:

If he answered 100-7-7-7 without hesitation, then it is HIGHLY doubtful he had a concussion. If it took him a while, then they needed to go on to other questions IMO.


hahaha

I answered everything under the fricking sun without hesitation. Literally any math I know, I could have answered with no problem after I got hit.

I had a massive concussion and my brain was swelling. Simple math doesn't tell you shite
Posted by The Boat
Member since Oct 2008
164023 posts
Posted on 10/10/12 at 1:59 am to
I'm glad you're okay, Big Mac.
Posted by LfcSU3520
Arizona
Member since Dec 2003
24466 posts
Posted on 10/10/12 at 2:02 am to
thank you

Posted by Boudin
Lafayette
Member since Oct 2006
10133 posts
Posted on 10/10/12 at 2:33 am to
I got concussed one time. Friend woke me up and asked me what I ate for breakfast, I told him I hadn't eaten breakfast yet. We went straight to the hospital.

Friends wouldn't let me drink anymore of the trip tho.
This post was edited on 10/10/12 at 2:36 am
Posted by HumbleNinja
Ann Arbor
Member since Jan 2011
2997 posts
Posted on 10/10/12 at 6:51 am to
quote:

What is 100 minus 7, minus 7, minus 7?


Regardless of concussion, I think a lot of college football players would struggle with this question
Posted by Blaquebuete
Kentucky
Member since Sep 2011
818 posts
Posted on 10/10/12 at 6:53 am to
Yeah, pretty risky on their part. It's the second hit aftera concussion that usually does the damage. He should have been evaluated at a hospital and would have likley been held from contact 1-2 weeks.
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