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re: Just a simple question: Do you know more about football than Les Miles?
Posted on 10/9/12 at 1:03 pm to BRAVEHEART
Posted on 10/9/12 at 1:03 pm to BRAVEHEART
It's almost if they're all really paid informants planted from the Athletic Department to defend the company line
You are probably not far from the truth.
You are probably not far from the truth.
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Posted on 10/9/12 at 1:04 pm to Topwater Trout
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3? who?
Why was this touted as the best oline we have had? Why is the drop off so sever? Why aren't the 2nd string guys ready? Maybe if we had a better offense we could develop more talent rather than letting them learn under pressure.
Agreed. If everyone was healthy, you still cant run the ball against 9 in the box. Offense is too predictable. The opponents know what were running most of the time because Les NEVER changes it up and does anything different.
Posted on 10/9/12 at 1:05 pm to Roaad
quote:
quote:
Williford
Lonergan
Look the same as when they got here.
wrong
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Quinn Johnson
Copeland
They look the same as when they got here.
wrong again
Posted on 10/9/12 at 1:05 pm to CharlesLSU
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Your position is National Champs or nothing
I would say every season is judged on it's own merit. This one hands perilously on the edge right now.
If LSU loses badly this weekend, some folks who don't want to hear it may want to avoid all national media, this board and any other outside news that deals with the sport for a while.
LSU fans aren't the only ones seeing problems right now. Maybe it can get turned this weekend, who knows...
Posted on 10/9/12 at 1:06 pm to Roaad
The obvious answer is NO to the OP....
The next obvious answer is that Les has become very predictable and opposing D-Cor are figuring out how to stop his scheme with the lose of starters due to injury and the fact that most of them have seen the exact same offense for the past 4.5 years... I agree to a large % that it has worked for the most part and hasn't had to change but once people have caught up to it and the talent level has evened out then you have to adapt... This my friend has not been Les's strong suit and if an idiot like me can see it then the best D-cor's in college football certainly can as well.
The next obvious answer is that Les has become very predictable and opposing D-Cor are figuring out how to stop his scheme with the lose of starters due to injury and the fact that most of them have seen the exact same offense for the past 4.5 years... I agree to a large % that it has worked for the most part and hasn't had to change but once people have caught up to it and the talent level has evened out then you have to adapt... This my friend has not been Les's strong suit and if an idiot like me can see it then the best D-cor's in college football certainly can as well.
Posted on 10/9/12 at 1:08 pm to CharlesLSU
quote:
Quinn Johnson
Copeland
They look the same as when they got here.
wrong again
O great. 2 of the very few palyers that have progressed on offense are fullbacks. Woooo we def are developing great talent on the offensive side here. Speaking of Copeland, why the frick are we going out of our way to give him touches? Because Les likes him? Why are we throwing him the ball on 3rd and 7 in the flats? Hes a converted DT with no hands and slow as shite, yet Les likes him so hes going to use him like a weapon.
Posted on 10/9/12 at 1:08 pm to RogerTheShrubber
IMO, essentially his primary role is to manage and oversee the production of this team. In other words, let your coaches do their job, but interfere when productivity halts.
Posted on 10/9/12 at 1:11 pm to jeaux_bleaux
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IMO, essentially his primary role is to manage and oversee the production of this team. In other words, let your coaches do their job, but interfere when productivity halts.
He allows Chavis to do what he wants with the D because hes our best coach/coordinator. But, Les controls the offense. He might let Stud call some plays or some series, but he approves of them. When its crunch time, Les calls what Les wants to call.
Posted on 10/9/12 at 1:12 pm to CharlesLSU
Not, not anyone else on this board does as well.
Guess you wanted me to say Yes.
Guess you wanted me to say Yes.
Posted on 10/9/12 at 1:17 pm to Roaad
About Mo, 3* to #5 pick.
Brockers 4* to 1st round, played behind Nevis and clearly wasn't ready to bench him.
It's ludicrous and really not worth discussing, so maybe you should find another avenue to dis the staff.
Brockers 4* to 1st round, played behind Nevis and clearly wasn't ready to bench him.
It's ludicrous and really not worth discussing, so maybe you should find another avenue to dis the staff.
Posted on 10/9/12 at 1:23 pm to Roaad
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I have no basis to weight this. He never looked better than any of the others. There was never alot of distance between the backs.
Then I'd argue all other RBs as a group progressed as well. Blue looked amazing before he got hurt.
quote:
Williford
Lonergan
Look the same as when they got here
Sure.
quote:
Lafell
His stats do not bear that out. More TD's, but fewer receptions, yards, ypc, etc
So what's your criteria for improvement? Is it simply more production? In that case you can add Reuben Randle to the list of players that improved.
quote:
Lee
Lee was a much better QB his senior year, I don't think you can argue that.
Posted on 10/9/12 at 1:26 pm to Mayhawman
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About Mo, 3* to #5 pick.
Brockers 4* to 1st round, played behind Nevis and clearly wasn't ready to bench him.
Those are on D buddy. Les doesnt touch the D. In the passing game, we have had very few players improve while they have been here. Lafell did. And im sure there are a few more, but majority of guys stay stagnant.
Posted on 10/9/12 at 1:27 pm to EarthwormJim
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Lee was a much better QB his senior year, I don't think you can argue that.
Lee was vastly improved, but where did that get him? O yea thats right Les benched him after the 1st 7 games, which has been our best offense in 2 years, for JJ... Thanks for making my point easier.
Posted on 10/9/12 at 1:27 pm to EarthwormJim
quote:What is yours?
So what's your criteria for improvement? Is it simply more production?
quote:Do you think he would agree?
In that case you can add Reuben Randle to the list of players that improved.
quote:Compared to what?
Lee was a much better QB his senior year
He was mediocre, playing in a considerably safer offense than in 08.
Posted on 10/9/12 at 1:27 pm to KG5989
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Those are on D buddy
...because the head coach has nothing to say about his...I mean the defense.
it's called HEAD COACH.
Posted on 10/9/12 at 1:28 pm to Roaad
quote:What makes you so sure he has that much involvement with offensive coaching?
don't think Miles has any significant involvement with defensive coaching, though.
Because the Rant says so?
He has staff and surely can't coach all positions in 20hrs a week and perform HC duties at a large institution.
Posted on 10/9/12 at 1:31 pm to Roaad
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What is yours?
You're the one making the argument Lafell and Doucet didn't improve because their production decreased. In that case it's reall easy to point out the players whose production increased, therefore they must have improved.
quote:
Compared to what?
He was mediocre, playing in a considerably safer offense than in 08
His senior year compared to the rest of his collegiate career, he improved and you really made no argument against that.
Posted on 10/9/12 at 1:33 pm to CharlesLSU
quote:You are getting sad now.
...because the head coach has nothing to say about his...I mean the defense.
Les Miles. . .defensive coach!
Posted on 10/9/12 at 1:34 pm to CharlesLSU
No. However, I know enough about football to know that our offense isn't performing well and changes must be made. Your question is like asking a layman if he knows more medicine than a medical doctor. Of course, the layman doesn't but he knows when he is sick even though the doctor might tell him he isn't sick.
Posted on 10/9/12 at 1:39 pm to EarthwormJim
quote:That is a metric.
You're the one making the argument Lafell and Doucet didn't improve because their production decreased.
Hard to tell otherwise, because the entire offense was garbage for Lafell.
For Doucet, the offense was fine in Crowton's first year, but Doucet's stats dropped.
quote:The offense was safer.
His senior year compared to the rest of his collegiate career
He looked exactly the same as he did in 08. No Pick 6's because the offense was safer. When you throw mainly slants and screens, your completion percentage tends to rise.
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