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re: Isn't player execution coaching ?

Posted on 10/7/12 at 6:58 pm to
Posted by MarlinMan
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Posted on 10/7/12 at 6:58 pm to
Yea....they have better coaches !!! And discipline and a cerebral general on the sidelines calling the shots !!!
This post was edited on 10/7/12 at 7:03 pm
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
46620 posts
Posted on 10/7/12 at 6:59 pm to
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So we recruited an entire offense that can't keep up? Including guys like OBJ who did fine last year when they were given a chance?

Obj did well while being guarded by the second cb. Most teams in CFb don't have two dominant CBS.
Posted by GABlueDog
Marietta, GA
Member since Dec 2008
8045 posts
Posted on 10/7/12 at 7:00 pm to
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Either our offensive coaches are really bad at coaching or they are really bad at evaluating talent. Either way, they are accountable.

No, apparently the Les Pumpers have shifted strategy to blaming the players now.

One day, one fine day...we will have the talent to properly execute Les' offense.
Posted by Papa Tigah
TIGER ISLAND, LA
Member since Sep 2007
18379 posts
Posted on 10/7/12 at 7:01 pm to
Most are true freshman with the injuries.
Posted by Topwater Trout
Red Stick
Member since Oct 2010
67589 posts
Posted on 10/7/12 at 7:02 pm to
A "well coached team" is one that is fundamentaly sound. Also great coaching usually means utilizing talent. We can talk about CLMs record til the cows come home but if anyone thinks the talent is being used properly needs to wake up.

I watch teams with inferior talent block, pass, catch, and run every Saturday.

Outsiders have been saying for years our offense is our Achilles heel. I just don't see why some of our fanbase can't see the same. I actually know why and it's bc they feel you can't speak in truths if the truth is negative. How much better could this team be with a good offensive coordinator and staff. It's time for CLM to quit wasting talent.
Posted by GABlueDog
Marietta, GA
Member since Dec 2008
8045 posts
Posted on 10/7/12 at 7:05 pm to
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How much better could this team be with a good offensive coordinator and staff.

So frustrating. This offense is costing us championships. It cost us one last year and will probably cost us more.

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I just don't see why some of our fanbase can't see the same. I actually know why and it's bc they feel you can't speak in truths if the truth is negative.

They're a joke, like Les' offense. The whole world knows it and is talking about it. At some point you have to pull your head out of the sand and face the facts, right?
Posted by MarlinMan
BSL
Member since Sep 2007
2533 posts
Posted on 10/7/12 at 7:06 pm to
Bingo. He is not a great coach and the national media knows it. Louisiana talent, Tommy Moffitt and Chavis cover up his deficiencies and keep us winning (until yesterday) ...
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
46620 posts
Posted on 10/7/12 at 7:13 pm to
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Bingo. He is not a great coach and the national media knows it. Louisiana talent, Tommy Moffitt and Chavis cover up his deficiencies and keep us winning (until yesterday) ...


Good god. You don't win as much as Miles and not be a good coach. Some of you have to be missing chromosomes. You don't luck into the most wins in the SEC since being hired, 3 west titles , 2 SEC titles and a BCSCG title. Also Miles' offenses has sucked so bad he has coached 4/5 OF THE TOP 5 OFFENSE IN LSU HISTORY.

You dumb fricks arent entitled to your own facts.
This post was edited on 10/7/12 at 7:14 pm
Posted by Topwater Trout
Red Stick
Member since Oct 2010
67589 posts
Posted on 10/7/12 at 7:14 pm to
I am at a loss why he is so stubborn with this offense. I am sure he can go hire any offensive staff he wants and LSU will pay the OC top dollar.

I would think if he told the AD I need a top notch OC he would get one. Makes no sense!
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
46620 posts
Posted on 10/7/12 at 7:16 pm to
Bruh. We've lost 3 Olineman and a starting rb and have a gimpy fb and our wr can't catch. This means we've lost 4 of our top run blockers and our wr receivers can't catch the ball. So what would you want Miles to call?
Posted by Gray Tiger
Prairieville, LA
Member since Jan 2004
36512 posts
Posted on 10/7/12 at 7:16 pm to
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Louisiana talent,


No other state produces talent?
Posted by MarlinMan
BSL
Member since Sep 2007
2533 posts
Posted on 10/7/12 at 7:18 pm to
You're an idiot sunshine pumper... The national media view Miles as a doofus that has no clue what is going on during games. The school will always recruit well, Miles is losing this team and may just get drilled Saturday night....
Posted by GABlueDog
Marietta, GA
Member since Dec 2008
8045 posts
Posted on 10/7/12 at 7:18 pm to
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I am at a loss why he is so stubborn with this offense. I am sure he can go hire any offensive staff he wants and LSU will pay the OC top dollar.

I would think if he told the AD I need a top notch OC he would get one. Makes no sense!

The problem is that Les thinks he already has a top notch offensive system. Listen to his comments after the game...he is baffled as to why our offense is so bad.
Posted by nf
Portland, OR
Member since Oct 2012
520 posts
Posted on 10/7/12 at 7:19 pm to
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Also Miles' offenses has sucked so bad he has coached 4/5 OF THE TOP 5 OFFENSE IN LSU HISTORY.


This would be meaningful is LSU wasn't really shitty for much of it's history.

Miles is a good coach, but the game is passing him by and he isn't doing anything to catch up. He's turning into a Frank Beamer or Joe Paterno type, who just refuses to adapt when things stop working.

Anyway, the buck ultimately stops with the coaches. This isn't the NFL where you can blame the GM for not giving you talent. Miles has top recruiting classes year after year. If he can't turn them into anything better than a below average FBS offense then that is his fault.
Posted by Gray Tiger
Prairieville, LA
Member since Jan 2004
36512 posts
Posted on 10/7/12 at 7:20 pm to
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The national media view Miles as a doofus that has no clue what is going on during games.

Please provide proof.

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The school will always recruit well,

Tell that to Curley.
Posted by Papa Tigah
TIGER ISLAND, LA
Member since Sep 2007
18379 posts
Posted on 10/7/12 at 7:23 pm to
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Curley
He did bring great shame to the three stoogies.
Posted by GABlueDog
Marietta, GA
Member since Dec 2008
8045 posts
Posted on 10/7/12 at 7:24 pm to
I'd say a Fulmer comparison is very close.
Posted by GABlueDog
Marietta, GA
Member since Dec 2008
8045 posts
Posted on 10/7/12 at 7:25 pm to
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Please provide proof.

Read just about anything.

Watch just about anything.

Talk to just about anyone.
This post was edited on 10/7/12 at 7:26 pm
Posted by Topwater Trout
Red Stick
Member since Oct 2010
67589 posts
Posted on 10/7/12 at 8:25 pm to
Other teams don't have injuries?

I would like him to go get a guy who can get our offensive recruits to live up to their expectations.

Why is it the defensive players improve but the ones on offense don't? It's coaching!
Posted by ZTiger87
Member since Nov 2009
11536 posts
Posted on 10/7/12 at 8:33 pm to
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The national media view Miles as a doofus that has no clue what is going on during games.




Must have rigged the vote.
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