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France on Monday unveiled a package of reforms designed to increase access to abortion, including 100 percent reimbursement of medical costs by the state social security system. At present French women are only able to claim back between 70 and 80 percent of the costs, which average between 200 and 450 euros depending on whether the abortion is induced by medication taken at home or carried out by surgical procedure in a clinic. The change to full reimbursement was included in the 2013 social security budget unveiled on Monday. In a statement the government said the move was "necessary to ensure all women have equal access to abortion." The move follows a long campaign by pro-choice organisations and was a manifesto promise by Socialist President Francois Hollande ahead of his election victory in June.




It's the idea that abortions are free is what is so shocking.



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Blastoise
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Take it to the poli board






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Swoopin
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designed to increase access to abortion








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Its smart. It will save the government A TON of money! If our government wasn't run by religious nutjobs we would do the same thing!





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I'm far from a prolife activists, but that is absolutely ridiculous. It terrifies me to think that this country is slowly headed in the same direction. If it weren't for the south and the midwest, we'd already be there.





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Its smart. It will save the government A TON of money! If our government wasn't run by religious nutjobs we would do the same thing!


Money>human life. That's what I took from what you just said. Like I said, I'm not in the streets yelling at young women on what is certainly one of the worst days of their lives, but the idea that the government should pay for pregnancies to be terminated is terrifying. Maybe Huxley and Orwell were on to something.






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Should be done by every country





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France on Monday unveiled a package of reforms designed to increase access to abortion


This statement in and of itself is going to send the harshest shockwaves through the politically polarized and ideologically religious sections of our country. Should make for some fun conversations and interesting debates in the future.






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the idea that the government should pay for pregnancies


That's just it. People think it's the government paying for it. They personify the government and remove the fact that the government is forcing all of its citizens to pay for it.

:poliboard:

Though if it moves there I'd never have seen it.






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I also thought that both Democrats and Republicans should be for abortion. Democrats for women's choice. Republicans because the aborted babies are future Democrats.





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le sigh





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This is not an issue of socialism, or even an issue of abortion, even though it will be painted that way.

This is an attempt by the state* to curtail social spending, believe it or not.

The problems that states* are running into are is that they are realizing they can't afford the social welfare programs they have in place. But they know they cannot take them away or else there will be riots.

So the next best thing is to limit the number of people on the social welfare systems. They can't do it directly, as tried in earlier parts of the century with eugenics programs, so they have to reframe the issue.

Now it's one of pro-choice, or women's rights, or whatever. And it makes it an easier sell.

This same thing is being done in the USA, to much ballyhoo. The issue of free birth control and state subsidized abortions is a real one. The ironic thing is that the conservatives often fight it, whereas they should really wholeheartedly support it.


*state = a collective organization that uses force and violence to rule over a particular geographic area. I was not referring to a US state, in case anyone gets picky (and yes, it has happened on this site before, that's why I included this footnote)



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Swoopin
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Fiscal conservatives, you're right.

But it is ludicrous to me that the money taken out of my paycheck every other Friday is funding someone to scramble their mistake.






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It's the idea that abortions are free is what is so shocking

Why? They aren't forcing women to have abortions. BTW: some insurances in the U.S. pay for abortions. This is not a new concept.






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Ryne Sandberg
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I understand what you are saying 100%, since the R v W decision this is basically where America has been headed





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Ryne Sandberg
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some insurances in the U.S. pay for abortions

not the same as tax-payer funded






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Why? They aren't forcing women to have abortions. BTW: some insurances in the U.S. pay for abortions. This is not a new concept.


Why is everyone forced to pay for a woman's abortion?






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But it is ludicrous to me that the money taken out of my paycheck every other Friday is funding someone to scramble their mistake.

Are you OK for money taken out of your paycheck to support that mistake for the next 18 years?






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But it is ludicrous to me that the money taken out of my paycheck every other Friday is funding someone to scramble their mistake.


either way money is coming out. one will just be cheaper






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