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re: **Official** FRINGE: "Transilience Thought Unifier Model-11" SEASON 5 PREMIER
Posted on 10/3/12 at 11:16 am to BaddestAndvari
Posted on 10/3/12 at 11:16 am to BaddestAndvari
And peter abandoning Walter and olivia is something believable because thats just part of his character we have seen the past 6 years?
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Posted on 10/3/12 at 11:18 am to BaddestAndvari
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BaddestAndvari
The sarcasm comment was directed at Kash, not you.
Posted on 10/3/12 at 11:23 am to Iona Fan Man
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And peter abandoning Walter and olivia is something believable because thats just part of his character we have seen the past 6 years?
He didn't abandon them, he chose a different quest. They were trying to save the world while he was trying to save his daughter. I don't find it that unbelievable. It seems more unbelievable that Olivia would choose saving the world over going after her own daughter.
Posted on 10/3/12 at 11:28 am to Iona Fan Man
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And peter abandoning Walter and olivia is something believable because thats just part of his character we have seen the past 6 years?
actually, yes it does. Oddly enough, it matches up perfectly with what we had been shown in Season 3 and 4. (even going back to season 1 & 2.. will get back to this in a second)
In season 3 - we see that Peter wishes to reset the timeline because of 2 things:
A) The loss of Olivia in the future, and a future that has his family separated and in disarray. Peter has always been extremely loyal to family.. we can only assume he would be extremely loyal to the child that he always wanted.. we see his desire for a child even in a world that is falling apart (season finale, season 3).. he WANTS a child that bad, how much more would he want to PROTECT that child once she was alive?!
B) He lost a child in the future, he killed his own child in the Redverse, this broke him in the season finale of season.. completely broke his heart on so many levels, he is all about family.. that's just what he does.
We also see in season 4 that he has such a strong connection to the people he loves: that he can actually come from nowhere (had been erased from existence, nobody even knew who he was!) and manifest himself into existence. You know that saying - you do not know real love until your first child..? Do you really think his love for Etta would not have been even stronger than the very love that brought him back INTO existence from nothing..? And you think he would just abandon that girl!?!?!
Now.. season 1 and 2 - Peter is also loyal to family, in season 2 he left the blueverse all together in order to be with his real dad and mom in the redverse..
In season 1, 2, and 3 he is constantly talking about leaving the fringe team and going back to his life away from it all - he doesn't even have that strong of a connection to the "Fringe" team.. only to his family.
This post was edited on 10/3/12 at 1:01 pm
Posted on 10/3/12 at 11:28 am to TigerinATL
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Olivia would choose saving the world over going after her own daughter.
Olivia has always been job first.. Peter has always been family first. It actually makes sense to me.
ETA: This is because Olivia had a horrible home life growing up.. an abusive father, a mother who left her, etc.
This post was edited on 10/3/12 at 11:31 am
Posted on 10/3/12 at 11:38 am to BaddestAndvari
I just randomly stopped by to check in on this thread. I see there's some excitement going on 
Posted on 10/3/12 at 11:41 am to gjackx
When I see your avatar I get some excitement going on in my pants.
Posted on 10/3/12 at 11:42 am to PsychTiger
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When I see your avatar I get some excitement going on in my pants.
I knew you weren't talking to me Psych, but I don't want him to stop, because him asking stupid questions was allowing me to "vent" if you will.
Posted on 10/3/12 at 11:50 am to BaddestAndvari
quote:i just got back from the gym and i'm bout to go to class. y'all been writing essays on here i cant help you now i will read when i get back.
Fearthehat0307
I need help broseph.. a bunch of help...
P.S: PoI tomorrow!
POI tom
supernatural tonight
:nana: 
Posted on 10/3/12 at 12:13 pm to Iona Fan Man
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Kashonly
I've seen you in Fringe threads before so I know you're no troll but a little advice.
You don't want to get into a debate with BA on Fringe. On top of that, he's called on Fear for backup.
If you do choose to continue, I would suggest starting a Chuck Sucks thread. It will send Fear into a blind rage and BA will have to go there to calm him down.
They're the Spike and Butch of the M/TV Board.
Posted on 10/3/12 at 12:14 pm to PsychTiger
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When I see your avatar I get some excitement going on in my pants.
You aren't alone.
I'd save the cheerleader alright
This post was edited on 10/3/12 at 12:18 pm
Posted on 10/3/12 at 12:27 pm to Murray
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he's called on Fear for backup.
Nah.. I was saying I needed help.. as in, I'm insane and need help.
Posted on 10/3/12 at 12:56 pm to BaddestAndvari
I actually enjoy seeing long explanations for things that aren't my fault.
Posted on 10/3/12 at 12:59 pm to Murray
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If you do choose to continue, I would suggest starting a Chuck Sucks thread. It will send Fear into a blind rage and BA will have to go there to calm him down.
They're the Spike and Butch of the M/TV Board.
Best way to beat us in a debate - divide and conquer..
Also, it's Spike and Tyke, and.. that's a great analogy!
Posted on 10/3/12 at 1:02 pm to gjackx
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You aren't alone.
I'd save the cheerleader alright
I'm sure most of the people in this thread at some time or another saved the cheerleader in their fantasies..
Posted on 10/3/12 at 1:41 pm to BaddestAndvari
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Spike and Butch
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Spike and Tyke
None of you are correct. The .gif is Spike and Chester, of Looney Tunes fame:
Spike and Tyke are from Tom and Jerry, and are father and son:
Now, onto the episode. I liked it, even though it wasn't a fantastic episode.
I do agree with Kashonly about some things...the "secret death potion" thing seemed completely unnecessary in their plan. Definitely could've saved that for more important times (in theory, it was useful, but the way their plan played out, it wasn't really needed at all). Also, I agree that the whole tone of the characters has changed. They don't feel like the same people we all know IMO...I understand that they are "growing" as characters, but sometimes it feels like so much has changed that it is a completely different show now.
And that's not a terrible thing, because I like it now. But I can easily see why it would annoy some people though.
I feel like not a lot happened (aside from them finding Olivia, but that was done in about ten mintues). I did, however, love the ending with Walter in the cab. I'm sure it has some sort of deep meaning and all that, but I just liked the simplicity of it...Walter sitting in a cab in his underwear and finally being able to listen to music.
Also, I had never heard that song before, but I liked it. I agree with whoever it was that said that Fringe should take a note from Lost's playbook and focus more on fitting music sometimes. It's incredible how much a song can enhance a scene. Scrubs was also great at that.
Posted on 10/3/12 at 2:02 pm to CocomoLSU
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I do agree with Kashonly about some things...the "secret death potion" thing seemed completely unnecessary in their plan.
That would honestly be my only thing I could see as legitimate for questioning.. but it's not like there is actually going to be a real "war".. cause they would just get wiped out by the Observers, ultimately it's going to come down to whatever machine is in Walter's head, and whatever the hell September has been doing for 4 seasons..
Posted on 10/3/12 at 2:06 pm to BaddestAndvari
Christ this show has gone through so many resets i have forgotten half this shite.
So they directly wrote about an event 2-3 seasons ago in a different timeline with the intent that 3 years later they would use that as justification of a characters 180 and abandoning his wife and father?
Shows getting too convoluted for me.
So they directly wrote about an event 2-3 seasons ago in a different timeline with the intent that 3 years later they would use that as justification of a characters 180 and abandoning his wife and father?
Shows getting too convoluted for me.
Posted on 10/3/12 at 2:14 pm to Iona Fan Man
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So they directly wrote about an event 2-3 seasons ago in a different timeline with the intent that 3 years later they would use that as justification of a characters 180 and abandoning his wife and father?
It's hard to know what was done on purpose or not on purpose through each of the seasons to get us to this point. If they didn't have all of the resets, it would be tough to justify the last couple of seasons alone. I do miss Charlie though
Posted on 10/3/12 at 2:15 pm to Iona Fan Man
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characters 180 and abandoning his wife and father?
He has abandoned his father multiple times.. and he hasn't always had the greatest track record with female relationships either..
also, yes: These writers have always said they wrote everything in this show, with the intent of connection. Everything has a purpose.
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Christ this show has gone through so many resets i have forgotten half this shite.
Everything builds on everything.. it's a very hard show to follow, I am very thankful it made it 5 seasons, it really shouldn't have, the show is almost too smart for it's own good. Probably would have been a bit better for 13 episode seasons to be honest with you.
ETA: I would actually say that Fringe should be J.J's poster child for why American Network TV should move some shows to a 13 episode season arcs, instead of the 22 episode seasons.
This post was edited on 10/3/12 at 2:17 pm
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