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Mandel: lsu pasting of Washington means nothing
Posted on 9/28/12 at 6:37 am
Posted on 9/28/12 at 6:37 am
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Posted on 9/28/12 at 6:40 am to Ole War Skule
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Ole War Skule
Posted on 9/28/12 at 6:42 am to Ole War Skule
All I got from that was another sportswriter telling us USC is still an awesome team.
Posted on 9/28/12 at 6:43 am to Ole War Skule
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Finally, as to how LSU and USC fit into all this? They don't. The Tigers were thoroughly dominant Sept. 8 against Washington and thoroughly unimpressive in last week's 12-10 win against Auburn. We'll get a much better gauge of the Tigers when they visit Florida next weekend than we did from a game between two Pac-12 teams.
Very fair analysis - just take of business and none of this matters!
Posted on 9/28/12 at 6:43 am to Ole War Skule
Transitive property can be used only to criticize LSU... Never to make a point in favor of LSU.
-National Media
-National Media
Posted on 9/28/12 at 6:45 am to Ole War Skule
He's kinda right. Only thing I don't agree with was him saying lsu was thoroughly uninpressive against auburn. He should be slightly impressed with the stifling defense that played that game imo
Posted on 9/28/12 at 6:51 am to JermStone
I disagree completely. Winning by a td is one thing but our complete blowout has to have some merit. Follow his logic and our bcs blowout doesn't matter either.
He's picking and choosing which games matter then says they all do. He started with a desired conclusion and built a weak argument to support it. Just silly and funny.
He's picking and choosing which games matter then says they all do. He started with a desired conclusion and built a weak argument to support it. Just silly and funny.
This post was edited on 9/28/12 at 6:53 am
Posted on 9/28/12 at 6:51 am to JermStone
I wrote him 2 responses. One calling him a douche (i doubt it gets approved), but the 2nd pretty much stating that.
I mean did these people saying LSU looked unimpressive even watch the game? The defense was as dominate as ever.
People are disrespecting the win, solely because AU was awful to start the season.. but that shouldn't take away from what LSU did on their first SEC road game.
I mean did these people saying LSU looked unimpressive even watch the game? The defense was as dominate as ever.
People are disrespecting the win, solely because AU was awful to start the season.. but that shouldn't take away from what LSU did on their first SEC road game.
Posted on 9/28/12 at 6:53 am to Ole War Skule
[quote]Here's the thing about college football: The teams change from week to week. They're better some games than others. They play differently at home than on the road. Not to rain on the parade, but the transitive property wasn't intended for football. Read more: LINK ]
I'd agree with Mandel in the sense that you can't say LSU beat UW by 38, UW beat Stanford by 4 , Stanford beat USCw by 7 thus LSU is 42 pts better than Stanford and 49 pts better than USCw. However, I do think LSU's total domination of UW is an indicator that the PAC 12 is rather weak.
I'd agree with Mandel in the sense that you can't say LSU beat UW by 38, UW beat Stanford by 4 , Stanford beat USCw by 7 thus LSU is 42 pts better than Stanford and 49 pts better than USCw. However, I do think LSU's total domination of UW is an indicator that the PAC 12 is rather weak.
Posted on 9/28/12 at 6:58 am to Oyster
Point is he worked up the entire article to say USC isn't as bad as some would say. Could have used the same info to argue that LSU is probably better than recent naysayers suggest. Point of the article was not to report on Washington but to reach deep to Excuse and minimize USCs loss
Posted on 9/28/12 at 7:00 am to beauchristopher
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I mean did these people saying LSU looked unimpressive even watch the game? The defense was as dominate as ever.
Yea the defense was good, but Auburn's offense is awful. They only put up 19 on Clemson, who just gave up half a hundy against FSU. LSU could be a great team, but that game was not impressive
Posted on 9/28/12 at 7:08 am to Ole War Skule
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Ole War Skule Mandel: lsu pasting of Washington means nothing Point is he worked up the entire article to say USC isn't as bad as some would say. Could have used the same info to argue that LSU is probably better than recent naysayers suggest. Point of the article was not to report on Washington but to reach deep to Excuse and minimize USCs loss
I totally agree with that. I think for network marketing reasons ESPN wants to to protect the illusion of some type of parity between the conferences. The reality is that the team from the outside world going up against the SEC in the BCSNC is stepping into a buzz saw.
Posted on 9/28/12 at 7:13 am to Buckeye06
still butthurt 5 years later
Posted on 9/28/12 at 7:16 am to Oyster
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However, I do think LSU's total domination of UW is an indicator that the PAC 12 is rather weak.
LSU would blow out Stanford and USC too. Those are teams are not built to stay with LSU/Bama type talent. Why the media can't understand this I don't know?
This post was edited on 9/28/12 at 7:23 am
Posted on 9/28/12 at 7:19 am to offshoretrash
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The Tigers were thoroughly dominant Sept. 8 against Washington and thoroughly unimpressive in last week's 12-10
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Stanford outplayed USC that night
So LSU is unimpressive, yet USC just got outplayed.
Posted on 9/28/12 at 7:22 am to Oyster
What would he be saying if Stanford pounded Washington.
The point is, Washington is a good team and we completely dominated them
The point is, Washington is a good team and we completely dominated them
Posted on 9/28/12 at 7:23 am to offshoretrash
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LSU would blow out Stanford and USC too. Those are teams are just not built to stay with LSU/Bama type talent. Why the media can't understand this I don't know?
The obvious reality is that the SEC will win the BCSNC game again this year. The only conference worth following is the SEC. The only issue to be resolved is which team gets to win the BCSNC game from the SEC.
This reality is horrendous for ESPN selling commercial time in other conferences. ESPN is a corporation and has to protect their financial interests. Thus we get exposed to the ESPN Kool aid of conference parity.
Posted on 9/28/12 at 7:24 am to Buckeye06
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Yea the defense was good, but Auburn's offense is awful. They only put up 19 on Clemson, who just gave up half a hundy against FSU
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Here's the thing about college football: The teams change from week to week. They're better some games than others. They play differently at home than on the road. Not to rain on the parade, but the transitive property wasn't intended for football.
Frankly, if he wants to make that statement in favor of USC, the same must hold true for LSU. His argument is about as consistent as a televangelist.
Posted on 9/28/12 at 7:26 am to Kajungee
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So LSU is unimpressive, yet USC just got outplayed.
I'd prefer a 2 point win over any loss to a PAC-12 chump. Clearly they were channeling Andrew Luck against USC.
Posted on 9/28/12 at 7:27 am to offshoretrash
It's funny how the "myth" of transitive property has not stopped many commentators from readily predicting LSU to be cotton or outback bowl bound (from BCS Champ game a week before) soley because we played or first road test in a very hostile environment which was a night game. Last time I checked we still won that game, yet it appears to me like they are saying because we only beat Auburn how we did that must mean we lose several of our upcoming games. Funny how that works. 
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