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An observation...Lack of focus.. a tendency that leads to other issues
Posted on 9/25/12 at 10:09 am
Posted on 9/25/12 at 10:09 am
In ever how many years Miles has been LSU's H.C... a couple of things mark every team he puts on the field..
1) Penalties
2) Time management issues
3) Playing up or down to the opponent
4) A tendency to jump out to an early lead... relax... and sometimes let the other team catch up (Tenn. several years ago...N.C. 2 years ago)
Now.. in spite of those things he seems to.. somehow.. some way...either through lucky breaks or athletes making plays... pull out wins... But this stuff seems to happen every year.
1) Every year, we seem to have more penalties than we should.
2) There seems to always be time management issues. Last Saturday, the missed FG could have EASILY cost us that game and it was a time management issue.
Miles is a good recruiter and seems very laid back.. which leads to maybe a lackadaisical attitude at times.
Just an observation.
1) Penalties
2) Time management issues
3) Playing up or down to the opponent
4) A tendency to jump out to an early lead... relax... and sometimes let the other team catch up (Tenn. several years ago...N.C. 2 years ago)
Now.. in spite of those things he seems to.. somehow.. some way...either through lucky breaks or athletes making plays... pull out wins... But this stuff seems to happen every year.
1) Every year, we seem to have more penalties than we should.
2) There seems to always be time management issues. Last Saturday, the missed FG could have EASILY cost us that game and it was a time management issue.
Miles is a good recruiter and seems very laid back.. which leads to maybe a lackadaisical attitude at times.
Just an observation.
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Posted on 9/25/12 at 10:11 am to GA Tiger
Good Morning Captain Obvious!
Posted on 9/25/12 at 10:12 am to GA Tiger
Every year there are different AMATEUR players on the field. They screw up at times. (Actually, so do pros.)
Just an observation.
Just an observation.
Posted on 9/25/12 at 10:12 am to GA Tiger
quote:No it was not. It was a well struck missed kick.
2) There seems to always be time management issues. Last Saturday, the missed FG could have EASILY cost us that game and it was a time management issue.
Posted on 9/25/12 at 10:15 am to AlxTgr
quote:
No it was not. It was a well struck missed kick.
It was well struck but.. the kid was rushed. When he nodded to the holder that he was ready.. there were like 4 seconds on the play clock
Posted on 9/25/12 at 10:15 am to Chicot
quote:
Good Morning Captain Obvious!
Posted on 9/25/12 at 10:16 am to liquid rabbit
quote:
Every year there are different AMATEUR players on the field. They screw up at times. (Actually, so do pros.)
I'm not talking about the AMATEUR players... My reference was to the lack of focus on the ADULT coaches...
Posted on 9/25/12 at 10:19 am to liquid rabbit
quote:
Every year there are different AMATEUR players on the field.
It wasnt the amateur players who did not know what down it was.
I trust Alleman when he says he should have made the kick regardless, but it is far from optimal when you have to rush a field goal unit on after a dead ball period sorting out a penalty because your head coach could not figure out what down it was.
Posted on 9/25/12 at 10:20 am to igoringa
So it's all the coaches' fault. The players are never at fault.
The coaches made Beckham drop that pass.
The coaches made Beckham drop that pass.
Posted on 9/25/12 at 10:20 am to GA Tiger
quote:
every team
I'd agree with all that, except for last year's team. In at least the beginning of the season, the team showed up focused and dominated. I don't know if it was starting with Oregon, or what.
Crap started to fall apart around the Arkansas game, but they were at least able to get their shite together in the second half of that game and second half of Georgia.
Then they took a giant shite on the field on 1/9/12 and its the same old unfocused, not intense, Les Miles teams of previous years not playing up to its full potential.
Posted on 9/25/12 at 10:23 am to GA Tiger
quote:
Miles is a good recruiter and seems very laid back.. which leads to maybe a lackadaisical attitude at times.
les miles is anything but lackadaisical. your premise is wrong. the penalties are not a product of indifference. his time mgt issues stem from one damn game; a game that has grown in legend because the assumption is that crowton had nothing to do with that when crowton was the worst time manager ever. he had too many damn scenerios and player groups and he couldn't always get it together in time. those issues, by and large, disappeared when he did. and LSU does not always play or or down to the opponent any more than any other team. and all teams have a tendency to relax when they have a big lead. do you recall the iron bowl in '10 when bama had a 21 pt lead at the half against auburn and then relaxed and they lost the game? of course, that was nick saban so it wasn't his fault.
i think you are being critical of miles uneccessarily and in the wrong areas. he has some weaknesses but none in any area you mentioned.
Posted on 9/25/12 at 10:24 am to liquid rabbit
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The coaches made Beckham drop that pass.
Didn't say it was all the coaches fault and.. you are singling out one play. I said that overall, we seem to have a lot of penalties... and some times lose focus.
Posted on 9/25/12 at 10:26 am to Alatgr
quote:
I'd agree with all that, except for last year's team. In at least the beginning of the season, the team showed up focused and dominated. I don't know if it was starting with Oregon, or what. Crap started to fall apart around the Arkansas game, but they were at least able to get their shite together in the second half of that game and second half of Georgia. Then they took a giant shite on the field on 1/9/12 and its the same old unfocused, not intense, Les Miles teams of previous years not playing up to its full potential.
Agree... I would even say we were lucky to get past UGA in the SECG. I was at the game. It could have EASILY been 21-7 at half.
And, I agree that the Oregon game probably got them more focused early in the year.
Posted on 9/25/12 at 10:31 am to GA Tiger
quote:
In ever how many years Miles has been LSU's H.C... a couple of things mark every team he puts on the field..
1) Penalties
2) Time management issues
3) Playing up or down to the opponent
4) A tendency to jump out to an early lead... relax... and sometimes let the other team catch up (Tenn. several years ago...N.C. 2 years ago)
Now.. in spite of those things he seems to.. somehow.. some way...either through lucky breaks or athletes making plays... pull out wins... But this stuff seems to happen every year.
1) Every year, we seem to have more penalties than we should.
2) There seems to always be time management issues. Last Saturday, the missed FG could have EASILY cost us that game and it was a time management issue.
Miles is a good recruiter and seems very laid back.. which leads to maybe a lackadaisical attitude at times.
no you're right all he does is recruit and sit back and be a retard.
and we always have close games, what was the average margin of victory last yr like 1.5 pts? how awful.
we need someone to come in here with intensity and yell at players and go 8-4 every year. that would be awesome.
LSU has the same number of penalties per game as UGA, UF, and FSU.
they have less than USC.
last year LSU finished in the middle of the nation in penalties. they were the worst in the nation in 07. they also won an NC. or do you recognize that as a saban championship?
Posted on 9/25/12 at 10:34 am to GA Tiger
It just seems to me there's a big tendency on this board by some people to attribute all our problems to failures on the part of the coaches.
It's a team sport. It's a team failure.
Is it not possible that the opponent just played harder and wanted it more when the Tigers play a tight game or, heaven forbid, lose?
Maybe they didn't fumble as much, make as many bonehead penalties, made some clutch catches.
Coaches can only do so much. Then it's up to the players to perform and have the ball bounce the right way. And refs call it evenly.
It's a team sport. It's a team failure.
Is it not possible that the opponent just played harder and wanted it more when the Tigers play a tight game or, heaven forbid, lose?
Maybe they didn't fumble as much, make as many bonehead penalties, made some clutch catches.
Coaches can only do so much. Then it's up to the players to perform and have the ball bounce the right way. And refs call it evenly.
Posted on 9/25/12 at 10:35 am to GA Tiger
quote:
3) Playing up or down to the opponent
Les has some faults but this applies much more to Saban IMO.
Posted on 9/25/12 at 10:35 am to TDTGodfather
quote:
they also won an NC. or do you recognize that as a saban championship?
Yep
Posted on 9/25/12 at 10:36 am to GA Tiger
quote:
Miles is a good recruiter and seems very laid back.. which leads to maybe a lackadaisical attitude at times
pegged it. no discipline. IMO: Miles is a good recruiter (he still loses a few top LA prospects to Saban every year) and program manager (good with the media), but not a great football coach on gameday. He must surround himself with great assistants to cover up his deficiencies in coaching and discipline. The best thing Miles does is motivate his team for big games and make great play calls at critical moments in a game (he or the OC is good at that). But his teams play to their opponents level and look confused at times every year... Most encouraging thing I have ever seen from Miles is him getting in Mills' face during the Auburn game. Hope his fire to improve continues...
Posted on 9/25/12 at 10:39 am to TDTGodfather
quote:
saban
Always has his team focused, except when they aren't. Saban teams never let other teams back in the game, except when they do. Saban teams never play down to opponents, except when they do. Saban teams never have a lot of penalties, except when they do. Saban = better coach. Bama = better than LSU.
Posted on 9/25/12 at 10:40 am to MarlinMan
quote:
pegged it. no discipline. IMO: Miles is a good recruiter (he still loses a few top LA prospects to Saban every year) and program manager (good with the media), but not a great football coach on gameday. He must surround himself with great assistants to cover up his deficiencies in coaching and discipline. The best thing Miles does is motivate his team for big games and make great play calls at critical moments in a game (he or the OC is good at that). But his teams play to their opponents level and look confused at times every year... Most encouraging thing I have ever seen from Miles is him getting in Mills' face during the Auburn game. Hope his fire to improve continues...
Agree... I haven't seen him get in a players face like he did with Mills before.
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