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Posted on 9/16/12 at 7:11 pm to Fearthehat0307
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is there fault in my logic though?
yes. but at the root of your logic is that tanking is OK. and we've gone through that a million times. and we aren't going to get anywhere if I start poking holes in what you said.
i just want peace
Posted on 9/16/12 at 7:12 pm to CP3LSU25
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WOW. 2 totally different circumstances. We got Anthony Davis because we TANKED. The NFL is a different breed like Fearthehat quoted
i'm not getting into this, like I already said. but to say we got AD because we tanked is completely wrong. we got AD because we finished where we finished. which included, for instance, that buzzer beater against Golden State at the end of the season.
Posted on 9/16/12 at 7:19 pm to quail man
Tanking in the NBA makes more sense because 1 person in basketball can turn a team around. Doesn't work the same way in the NFL. Look at the Colts for example. Andrew Luck is one of the highest rated players to go to the draft in years and they still aren't very good this year. Not nearly the same as someone like Lebron falling into a team's hands
Posted on 9/16/12 at 7:23 pm to Cap Crunch
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Doesn't work the same way in the NFL. Look at the Colts for example. Andrew Luck is one of the highest rated players to go to the draft in years and they still aren't very good
RGIII says hello
Posted on 9/16/12 at 7:25 pm to quail man
quote:please elaborate. this is a civil discussion lets see where it goes
yes.
Posted on 9/16/12 at 7:27 pm to Fearthehat0307
The Hornets never tanked; a few fans did.
Posted on 9/16/12 at 7:29 pm to Jester
"Tanking" is both wrong and a stupid word to describe the action.
Posted on 9/16/12 at 7:31 pm to Jester
quote:im referencing my argument about the difference between nfl and nba.
The Hornets never tanked; a few fans did.
to make things clear i in know way think a coach should call a game in a way to lose it or tell the players to miss shots or whatever. by tanking i mean basically what monty admitted to that strategy was different once you know where the season was heading. he said and im paraphrasing, something to the extent of you change your strategy and play younger players longer and to a greater extent to get them valuable experience for future success instead of all veterans in a win at all costs mentality leaving lesser players on the bench
Posted on 9/16/12 at 7:37 pm to Jester
You mean the Redskins that lost to the Rams today? Yeah, RGIII turned them into a great team. The Saints are making everyone look great this year.
Posted on 9/16/12 at 7:38 pm to Jester
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RGIII says hello
Who,mon?
Oh yeah, that guy on the team that lost to the Rams today.
Posted on 9/16/12 at 7:38 pm to Cap Crunch
Yeah, this wasn't my intention for this thread.
Posted on 9/16/12 at 7:40 pm to Broski
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Yeah, this wasn't my intention for this thread.
Posted on 9/16/12 at 7:49 pm to Broski
Its ok, this is the best debate we've had on here in months
Hell its been the only debate
Hell its been the only debate
Posted on 9/16/12 at 7:54 pm to Cap Crunch
1.) Tanking is dumb, you are rooting for your team to lose (how does nobody see the wrong in that?)
2.) The hornets never tanked. The bobcats did. How did that work for them?
2.) The hornets never tanked. The bobcats did. How did that work for them?
Posted on 9/16/12 at 7:59 pm to droman225
I honestly don't know how much the Bobcats actually tanked, they were fricking horrible last year. They didn't have to try to lose to accomplish that last year.
Posted on 9/16/12 at 8:01 pm to droman225
quote:your face tanked
1.) Tanking is dumb, you are rooting for your team to lose (how does nobody see the wrong in that?)
2.) The hornets never tanked. The bobcats did. How did that work for them?
Posted on 9/16/12 at 8:04 pm to Fearthehat0307
fine..but i have 200 pages left to read of journals before tomorrow, dammit.
let's for instance say Drew goes down in week 3. he's out for at least 6-8 weeks. the defense is full of "d-leaguers." you think the Saints have a chance to go anywhere? no. so by a "tanker's" logic, it would be OK to start tanking at that point. just lose out, right?
that's the biggest flaw in the logic. but like I said, at the base of that logic is that tanking is OK.
i get that the two playoffs systems are completely different though and that tanking would make more sense in the NBA.
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when your best player is injured and half of your roster is d-leaguers yes.
let's for instance say Drew goes down in week 3. he's out for at least 6-8 weeks. the defense is full of "d-leaguers." you think the Saints have a chance to go anywhere? no. so by a "tanker's" logic, it would be OK to start tanking at that point. just lose out, right?
that's the biggest flaw in the logic. but like I said, at the base of that logic is that tanking is OK.
i get that the two playoffs systems are completely different though and that tanking would make more sense in the NBA.
Posted on 9/16/12 at 8:09 pm to quail man
quote:texans went pretty far with their 3 string qb. chase daniel isn't that terrible i would say no. drew goes down you do not tank.
let's for instance say Drew goes down in week 3. he's out for at least 6-8 weeks. the defense is full of "d-leaguers." you think the Saints have a chance to go anywhere?
quote:i'm in the same boat i have a problem set due tomorrow for grad school i been putting off all day
fine..but i have 200 pages left to read of journals before tomorrow, dammit.
Posted on 9/16/12 at 8:10 pm to quail man
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et's for instance say Drew goes down in week 3. he's out for at least 6-8 weeks. the defense is full of "d-leaguers." you think the Saints have a chance to go anywhere? no. so by a "tanker's" logic, it would be OK to start tanking at that point. just lose out, right?
Chase Daniel has looked pretty good when he's played. so no.
Its stupid anyway. We can make the playoffs at 9-7 so its not like we're close to being out of it. So this discussion right now is a hypothetical and pointless. Plus, one player at the top of the draft does nothing. We need new players at virtually every position on the defensive side of the ball. Trades and free agency will do us better for that than the draft
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