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how much of the current energy problems are due to Waterford3 being offline?

Posted on 8/31/12 at 10:06 pm
Posted by Napoleon
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Posted on 8/31/12 at 10:06 pm



Was just listening to WWL and it was brought up.

Also in some ways i agree with Mr. Young, we saw seven contractor line trucks working on one downed pole.

This is crazy how much of or power went out for such a storm. It's crazy no power since 11pm Tuesday,it sucks. I know it could be worse, but waiting in line for gas every day is getting old.
Posted by Martini
Near Athens
Member since Mar 2005
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Posted on 8/31/12 at 10:09 pm to
I was out twenty one days for Gustav. It certainly becomes a challenge. Gotta just hang in there. I have to believe Entergy wants this fixed as soon as you do. If your meter isn't spinning they aren't making any money off you.
Posted by SG_Geaux
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Posted on 8/31/12 at 10:09 pm to
You can 50 nuclear plants in the area, but if the line and grid are damaged you ain't getting power.
Posted by LSUAlum2001
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Member since Aug 2003
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Posted on 8/31/12 at 10:19 pm to
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ow much of the current energy problems are due to Waterford3 being offline?


Probably none.

Just because a plant is generating power in the vicinity, doesn't mean the power generated is meant for the surrounding area.
Posted by Napoleon
Kenna
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 8/31/12 at 10:20 pm to
Yeah, we went months without after Katrina, but i had an RV then and it was easier. I guess less upset at not having power and more upset of a third hurricane in seven years where i have a ton off people at My house.. I know they aren't making money with it off. Man it just sucks, you know? I hope we have it in tomorrow.
I'm putting my crew back to work tomorrow and hope to stay busy. Honestly is be okay having no power, if i could get my cable modem back. Cell internet had been very spotty
Posted by Martini
Near Athens
Member since Mar 2005
48829 posts
Posted on 8/31/12 at 10:24 pm to
People in the house is more stressful to me than no power. Always feel like you have to entertain. We had a family from August 29 to after Thanksgiving for Katrina. I almost became a sniper in a bell tower.
Posted by LSUAlum2001
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Posted on 8/31/12 at 10:25 pm to
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if i could get my cable modem back. Cell internet had been very spotty



Probably the main reason why I have a DSL modem.

The local cable companies always seems to go out during hurricanes, whereas the phones lines typically do not.

Posted by notiger1997
Metairie
Member since May 2009
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Posted on 8/31/12 at 10:29 pm to
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I almost became a sniper in a bell tower.




I've had inlaws in my house for 3 nights now. I couldn't imagine three months.
Posted by notiger1997
Metairie
Member since May 2009
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Posted on 8/31/12 at 10:30 pm to
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how much of the current energy problems are due to Waterford3 being offline?


Probably nothing to do with N.O. and our area outages.
Posted by Napoleon
Kenna
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 8/31/12 at 10:47 pm to
Yeah, having people is rough. We had ten people in two rooms in Houston for a week the the families fire a month in an RV after Katina.

I just didn't expect this, i would have just left and had a vacation had i known this would happen. Oh well, i have an Alarm and Christmas lights set up to alert me assoon as I'm on the grid.


You get to miss central air real quick.
Posted by elprez00
Hammond, LA
Member since Sep 2011
29343 posts
Posted on 8/31/12 at 11:55 pm to
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how much of the current energy problems are due to Waterford3 being offline?



Zero. Point. Zero.

Waterford always goes off the grid before a storm, and the reactors are secured. I believe they shut down either Sunday night or Monday morning. Did you notice a change then? SOP and a requirement by the NRC. I believe the plan was always to have Waterford back on the grid by the end of the weekend.

Waterford provides power to the grid. Your pole is not directly connected to Waterford, and your house is not directly supplied by Waterford.
Posted by elprez00
Hammond, LA
Member since Sep 2011
29343 posts
Posted on 9/1/12 at 12:07 am to
Think of the US Power grid as a bunch of different sized buckets. Each bucket represents the power generating capacity of a Power Plant Owner. That bucket wont get bigger, and will only get smaller if a plant goes offline. When the bucket is half full and demand is low, the extra space is put on the market and is bought by another bucket who is overflowing because its demand is high. Power is bought and sold realtime by power companies, and meeting that demand is one of the biggest jobs of a utility company.

So, if Waterford is taken off the grid, Entergy might have to buy a little more power off the grid, or they might not be able to sell as much power off their generating capacity. Thats why your lights didn't go out when the plant went offline several days before the storm.
Posted by graychef
Member since Jun 2008
28298 posts
Posted on 9/1/12 at 12:26 am to
There is plenty of excess generation available in the area right now. A single generator loss does not impact the overall grid.
Posted by Napoleon
Kenna
Member since Dec 2007
69020 posts
Posted on 9/1/12 at 7:56 am to
Okay, electricians the question was answered in the first post. No need to keep posting technical info.
Thanks though, it was just a question, not a statement or anything.
Posted by stapuffmarshy
lower 9
Member since Apr 2010
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Posted on 9/1/12 at 8:00 am to
not to go on and on


but think of it like any biz. They have the juice, just no way to get it to the store
Posted by Napoleon
Kenna
Member since Dec 2007
69020 posts
Posted on 9/1/12 at 8:05 am to
I'm just ready to have my house back. I can't wait for the grid alarm to go off so i can turn the genny off and flip back on some power. Also as much as i complain about energy bills, it sure beats paying $40 a day to keep a window unit and the fridge running.
Posted by stapuffmarshy
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Member since Apr 2010
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Posted on 9/1/12 at 8:14 am to
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I'm just ready to have my house back



man u got that right. Im lucky I have air in the office but no stove, no shower, no bed, no yard to pitter patter in is wearing on me hard


and yes that is a me problem
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