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re: Crackpot ASOIAF Theories SPOILERS
Posted on 4/14/15 at 5:01 pm to Ace Midnight
Posted on 4/14/15 at 5:01 pm to Ace Midnight
Osney & Osfryd Kettleblack (will have an axe to grind)
Brynden Rivers (would be awesome)
Benjen Stark
Brynden Rivers (would be awesome)
Benjen Stark
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Posted on 4/14/15 at 5:20 pm to TigerintheNO
I think it could mean any younger brother, but to make it more well rounded you use Sandor. Not only is he the little brother, but he will ultimately "kill" Cersei by defeating his older brother in single combat. It's an extra layer that make it more profound than any other 2nd son.
Posted on 4/14/15 at 5:24 pm to Mr. Wayne
What's this?
REAL talk, about real GOT stuff?
I LIKE IT!!!
So glad the show has started back.
REAL talk, about real GOT stuff?
I LIKE IT!!!
So glad the show has started back.
Posted on 4/14/15 at 5:27 pm to Mr. Wayne
quote:
I think it could mean any younger brother, but to make it more well rounded you use Sandor. Not only is he the little brother, but he will ultimately "kill" Cersei by defeating his older brother in single combat. It's an extra layer that make it more profound than any other 2nd son.
I agree. I've seen this coming for some time. I was a hybrid (ahead in the show, behind in the books). I'm now very slightly ahead in the books. Everything has set up a significant battle between the Cleganes. The fact that one has gone zombie and the other is likely to be a fundamentalist holy warrior for the seven is only going to make it even more profound. (Sandor was always the thinker of the 2
). 
Posted on 4/14/15 at 5:28 pm to Ace Midnight
You forgot Trystane. I could definitely see the Dornish starting a war that gets Myrcella killed, after which Trystane kills Cersie.
Posted on 4/14/15 at 6:41 pm to Mr. Wayne
quote:
I think it could mean any younger brother, but to make it more well rounded you use Sandor. Not only is he the little brother, but he will ultimately "kill" Cersei by defeating his older brother in single combat. It's an extra layer that make it more profound than any other 2nd son
without a doubt Sandor makes alot of sense in that theory, but is it possible with regard to timeline?
I would assume that Cersei's trial would be fairly soon, and two of her children are still alive. Do you feel it is possible both are offed prior?
Posted on 4/14/15 at 7:00 pm to TigerintheNO
Cersei has many accusers. I think Robert Strong is going to be fricking shite up left and right. The O brothers are screwed.
Posted on 4/14/15 at 7:03 pm to TigerintheNO
Myrcella and Tommen aren't long for this world
Posted on 4/14/15 at 7:20 pm to Mr. Wayne
quote:
I think it could mean any younger brother, but to make it more well rounded you use Sandor. Not only is he the little brother, but he will ultimately "kill" Cersei by defeating his older brother in single combat. It's an extra layer that make it more profound than any other 2nd son.
No it wouldn't make it more profound. Sure Sandor killing Gregor for good would be great, but it does absolutely nothing for Cersei's arc. All Cersei will do is go to her death defiant and the only thing she'd truly be pissed about is that Jaime isn't there to go down with her. In fact, she will probably be shockingly content, since Tommen and Myrcella are still theoretically alive. I want Cersei's POV to be theoretically as sad as Cat's in the Red Wedding when she lost everything.
To start it off, I'd want her to obsess over the beautiful queen. When she wins her trial, has Margeary in her custody, and Doran finds out that his son was killed by Dany's dragons, Arianne will become Aegon's queen (which is why I suspect she's been cut since Aegon has been as well), and Cersei will then obsess with Arianne thinking she's the Queen who is more beautiful. Next LF openly betrays Cersei and declares Sansa the Queen in the North, and then Cersei begins obsessing over Sansa and the fact that she killed Joffrey. Finally I think Tyrion will send Cersei a message to make her even more neurotic, saying that he's now Dany's Hand of the Queen and that they are coming for everything she holds dear. Cersei will think she's now surrounded by the prophesy and that Dany poses the most threat to her due to Tyrion.
If you pay attention to any of her POVs, you will realize that the thought of Jaime being the Valonqar has never once crossed her mind. She will obsess on securing the ports of King's Landing barely defending the land, when Aegon will come basically unopposed and the Tyrells and Faith Militant open the gates for him. With Myrcella already dead, Cersei poisons Tommen, and the second that Tommen dies on the foot of the throne, Jaime walks in, and she's thrilled to see him, thinking they'll die together. Jaime instead explains to her why he killed the Mad King, and she realizes that she's become Aerys and that Jaime is the Valonqar. In the end, all of the queens took what she held most dear in one way or another, and she'll die knowing this.
Posted on 4/14/15 at 11:39 pm to blueboy
quote:What is this? I don't get why people think the Hound is still with us. Yes there are surprises with "death" in the books, but it seems to me the Hound is pretty fricking dead.
Gravedigger theory.
Posted on 4/14/15 at 11:45 pm to alajones
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Sandor Still Alive?
It is thought that Sandor Clegane is still alive and living as a novice at the monastery on the Quiet Isle.
Supporting Evidence
The Elder Brother of the monastery, while speaking to Brienne, seems to know an awful lot about the mind and soul of Sandor Clegane. Perhaps too much for having only briefly spoken to him as he died.
The gravedigger at the monastery is a large man, bigger than Brienne.[1]
The gravedigger, along with all the other novices, wears a scarf which covers his face. This would have made it impossible for Brienne to have seen the distinctive burns attributed to Sandor.
The gravedigger has a healing injury similar to the one that Sandor received at the Inn at the Crossroads.
Brienne notices the gravedigger bend down to pet a dog, which many readers believe is a hint left by GRRM.
The Elder Brother is very vague while speaking of the death of The Hound. It is possible that he is speaking metaphorically and that he believes the violent and angry version of Sandor has died and now the new Sandor lives on. This is supported by the fact that the Elder Brother mentions that he 'died' on the Trident when he used to be a warrior. In reality his 'death' only consisted of a major life change (as he believes Sandor has taken).
The presence of Sandor's black horse Stranger (now named Driftwood) on the Quiet Isle is another clue. It has been previously stated that only Sandor could lead or ride Stranger as the horse is exceptionally hard to handle.
Posted on 4/15/15 at 9:06 am to CE Tiger
Well, I guess this is a thread of crackpot theories. Damn, I missed a lot of shite in the books.
Thanks for the info.
Thanks for the info.
Posted on 4/18/15 at 4:27 pm to alajones
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Damn, I missed a lot of shite in the books.
I feel like that a lot. With some of the post from OML, belle, ladytiger, Wayne, etc I feel like I've never read them
Posted on 4/18/15 at 5:13 pm to OMLandshark
Jaime needs to kill her for dismissing Barristan from the Kingsguard too.
Posted on 4/18/15 at 5:16 pm to Korin
quote:
Jaime needs to kill her for dismissing Barristan from the Kingsguard too.
The last chapter Barristan was in had me tensed up. He was seriously about to kill a bunch of dudes. If/when he dies it better be in a blaze of glory, or some one-on-one epic battle with a worthy opponent.
Posted on 4/20/15 at 10:00 am to alajones
Since this is a crackpot theory thread, there is one that I've been thinking about lately.
Bran is being used by the Children of the Forest. He will be the force that sets the wights and the others Westeros. So Bran will be either willfully or unknowingly sending death to Westeros at some point, and it is all but assured that Dany, Snow and a yet unknown Targaryen (maybe this new Aegon?) will ride on Dragons and restore order to Westeros.
I just can't see any other way for Bran's story to happen.
Bran is being used by the Children of the Forest. He will be the force that sets the wights and the others Westeros. So Bran will be either willfully or unknowingly sending death to Westeros at some point, and it is all but assured that Dany, Snow and a yet unknown Targaryen (maybe this new Aegon?) will ride on Dragons and restore order to Westeros.
I just can't see any other way for Bran's story to happen.
This post was edited on 4/20/15 at 10:01 am
Posted on 4/21/15 at 10:36 am to alajones
I have a hard time seeing Bran going over to the side of the Others
Posted on 4/21/15 at 11:49 am to alajones
quote:
What is this? I don't get why people think the Hound is still with us. Yes there are surprises with "death" in the books, but it seems to me the Hound is pretty fricking dead.
I thought it was pretty much accepted that the Hound was still alive on Quiet Isle.
Posted on 4/21/15 at 12:26 pm to Aubie Spr96
I think Jon "Snow" will kill Cersei.
"the valonqar shall wrap his hands about your pale white throat and choke the life from you."
“It’s High Valyrian, it means little brother.”
If R+L=J then Jon is a little brother to Aegon and Rhaenys. It would be revenge for Cersei's role in the killing of Ned. Valonqar is the only Valyrian word used, so I think it will be someone from Valyrian decent. Aegon could also fit this role if he is not fAegon.
"the valonqar shall wrap his hands about your pale white throat and choke the life from you."
“It’s High Valyrian, it means little brother.”
If R+L=J then Jon is a little brother to Aegon and Rhaenys. It would be revenge for Cersei's role in the killing of Ned. Valonqar is the only Valyrian word used, so I think it will be someone from Valyrian decent. Aegon could also fit this role if he is not fAegon.
Posted on 4/21/15 at 12:51 pm to alajones
quote:I thought that after the TER told Bran that he should "embrace the darkness" or something like that. After reading Melisandre's many speeches about light being a force that keeps the darkness at bay, I agree that this is a distinct possibility.
Bran is being used by the Children of the Forest. He will be the force that sets the wights and the others Westeros. So Bran will be either willfully or unknowingly sending death to Westeros at some point
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