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Posted by DestrehanTiger
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Posted on 1/6/14 at 1:01 pm to
I would definitely not recommend doing the mixed read on the first read through. There are a lot of purposeful vagaries in AFFC that would be ruined by reading the story out of order. You are supposed to not know a few things going into ADWD, and it makes the read more enjoyable. Once you know what happens, then the mixed read helps a lot because the surprise aspect is no longer possible.
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Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 1/6/14 at 2:57 pm to
So I've been thinking about a Robert's Rebellion mini-series, and think it could do well.

Episode 1: The Tourney at Harrenhall- Basically the things that happen shortly before Harrenhall, as well as the melee that Robert wins and the dinner where everyone socializes. Also have Cersei's seduction of Jaime to join the Kingsguard in this episode, and end it with Aerys accepting Jaime to the Kingsguard, and immediately sending him back to King's Landing.

Episode 2: The Knight of the Laughing Tree- Start it off with the Knight of the Laughing Tree plot, with Rhaegar meeting Lyanna in the Woods. Add some more scenes in Harrenhall, and end it with Rhaegar winning the tourney and giving Lyanna the blue roses. Also Tywin leaves his post as Hand of the King.

Episode 3: The Wolf Blood- Brandon vs Littlefinger duel, Lyanna leaves with Rhaegar, Ned and Robert return to the Vale, Littlefinger knocks up Lysa, and Jon Connington is appointed the New Hand.

Episode 4: Waking the Dragon- Brandon arrives in King's Landing and is arrested, Rickard comes down and is burned alive, Aerys sends word to Jon Arryn to send him Ned and Robert's head, Aerys also rapes his wife. Also LF is sent back to the Vale and Lysa has a forced abortion.

Episode 5: Raising of the Banners- Ned heads North to rally his bannermen, while Robert heads South to rally his. Lyanna and Rhaegar arrive at the Tower of Joy, marry, and then consummate their marriage.

Episode 6: Summerhall- Robert wins Summerhall, Ned and Jon Arryn marry Catelyn and Lysa Tully respectively. Rhaegar arrives back in King's Landing to get chewed out by his wife. Aerys commands Connington to take out Robert Baratheon.

Episode 7: The Battle of the Bells- Ned and Jon Arryn save Robert from Connington. Rhaegar meets with his father and then marches north to meet Robert after telling Jaime he was going to change some things once he returned. Aerys also begins to rig King's Landing to blow.

Episode 8: The Trident- The infamous battle itself. Aerys will also light another Hand on fire for the hell of it, as well as send his wife and Viserys off to Dragonstone.

Episode 9: Burn Them All- Start with the aftermath of the Trident Ned marches south, and the Lannisters unexpectedly arrive in King's Landing. Aerys lets them in, and they start sacking the city. Episode ends with Jaime slaying Aerys, his own Lannister men marching in, and Jaime sitting on top of the Iron Throne.

Episode 10: Dragonspawn- Episode starts with Ned and his army coming over the hill and seeing King's Landing being sacked. Elia and her children are then raped and killed by the Mountain. Ned marches into the throne room to see Jaime sitting on the throne. Robert arrives with actual joy at the sght of the destruction of King's Landing, pardons Jaime Lannister when Tywin lays the corpses of the children at his feet. Robert calls them dragonspawn, and Ned out of protest takes his northern troops and march on the Tyrells to the South.

Episode 11: The Onion Knight- Davos enters Storm's End unseen, and gets Stannis his onions, only to have the top of his fingers chopped off for smuggling. Ned comes in to lift the siege. Tywin tells Robert that if Lyanna should die, that he has his daughter Cersei to ensure the union of the realm.

Episode 12: The Tower of Joy- Robert is crowned, and Jon Arryn becomes his Hand. Stannis lays siege to Dragonstone, and Ned and his Northern Lords come upon the Tower of Joy and fight the King's Guard located there. Lyanna gives birth to Jon, making Ned promise to not tell Robert and to claim that he is his own bastard. Once she gets her promise from him, Lyanna dies. Simultaneously, Rhaella and Viserys escape, and she gives birth to Dany and also passes.
Posted by BloodSweat&Beers
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Posted on 1/6/14 at 3:06 pm to
quote:

So I've been thinking about a Robert's Rebellion mini-series, and think it could do well.


Nice work
Posted by CE Tiger
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Posted on 1/6/14 at 3:08 pm to
Posted by icemaverick
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Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 1/6/14 at 3:13 pm to
quote:

Nope, not crazy. I think Varys could be a warg and the cats and kids with their tongues cut out in King's landing are his ears and eyes as well.


damn i totally forgot about those kids. and it could make perfect sense that he could warg.
Posted by DestrehanTiger
Houston, TX by way of Louisiana
Member since Nov 2005
12461 posts
Posted on 1/6/14 at 3:21 pm to
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Tywin tells Robert that if Lyanna should die, that he has his daughter Cersei to ensure the union of the realm.



My memory is lacking here, but why didn't Robert go to the Tower of Joy to rescue "his love". Was he too injured from the Trident? Just seems like he wouldn't hang out and let Ned go save his future bride.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
108098 posts
Posted on 1/6/14 at 3:23 pm to
quote:

My memory is lacking here, but why didn't Robert go to the Tower of Joy to rescue "his love". Was he too injured from the Trident? Just seems like he wouldn't hang out and let Ned go save his future bride.



I don't think Robert knew of her location and Ned only found out once he went South. He for sure didn't know of the Kingsguard being there before he marched South.
Posted by ladytiger118
Member since Aug 2009
20922 posts
Posted on 1/6/14 at 4:12 pm to
quote:

Episode 1: The Tourney at Harrenhall- Basically the things that happen shortly before Harrenhall, as well as the melee that Robert wins and the dinner where everyone socializes. Also have Cersei's seduction of Jaime to join the Kingsguard in this episode, and end it with Aerys accepting Jaime to the Kingsguard, and immediately sending him back to King's Landing.

Episode 2: The Knight of the Laughing Tree- Start it off with the Knight of the Laughing Tree plot, with Rhaegar meeting Lyanna in the Woods. Add some more scenes in Harrenhall, and end it with Rhaegar winning the tourney and giving Lyanna the blue roses. Also Tywin leaves his post as Hand of the King.

Episode 3: The Wolf Blood- Brandon vs Littlefinger duel, Lyanna leaves with Rhaegar, Ned and Robert return to the Vale, Littlefinger knocks up Lysa, and Jon Connington is appointed the New Hand.

Episode 4: Waking the Dragon- Brandon arrives in King's Landing and is arrested, Rickard comes down and is burned alive, Aerys sends word to Jon Arryn to send him Ned and Robert's head, Aerys also rapes his wife. Also LF is sent back to the Vale and Lysa has a forced abortion.

Episode 5: Raising of the Banners- Ned heads North to rally his bannermen, while Robert heads South to rally his. Lyanna and Rhaegar arrive at the Tower of Joy, marry, and then consummate their marriage.

Episode 6: Summerhall- Robert wins Summerhall, Ned and Jon Arryn marry Catelyn and Lysa Tully respectively. Rhaegar arrives back in King's Landing to get chewed out by his wife. Aerys commands Connington to take out Robert Baratheon.

Episode 7: The Battle of the Bells- Ned and Jon Arryn save Robert from Connington. Rhaegar meets with his father and then marches north to meet Robert after telling Jaime he was going to change some things once he returned. Aerys also begins to rig King's Landing to blow.

Episode 8: The Trident- The infamous battle itself. Aerys will also light another Hand on fire for the hell of it, as well as send his wife and Viserys off to Dragonstone.

Episode 9: Burn Them All- Start with the aftermath of the Trident Ned marches south, and the Lannisters unexpectedly arrive in King's Landing. Aerys lets them in, and they start sacking the city. Episode ends with Jaime slaying Aerys, his own Lannister men marching in, and Jaime sitting on top of the Iron Throne.

Episode 10: Dragonspawn- Episode starts with Ned and his army coming over the hill and seeing King's Landing being sacked. Elia and her children are then raped and killed by the Mountain. Ned marches into the throne room to see Jaime sitting on the throne. Robert arrives with actual joy at the sght of the destruction of King's Landing, pardons Jaime Lannister when Tywin lays the corpses of the children at his feet. Robert calls them dragonspawn, and Ned out of protest takes his northern troops and march on the Tyrells to the South.

Episode 11: The Onion Knight- Davos enters Storm's End unseen, and gets Stannis his onions, only to have the top of his fingers chopped off for smuggling. Ned comes in to lift the siege. Tywin tells Robert that if Lyanna should die, that he has his daughter Cersei to ensure the union of the realm.

Episode 12: The Tower of Joy- Robert is crowned, and Jon Arryn becomes his Hand. Stannis lays siege to Dragonstone, and Ned and his Northern Lords come upon the Tower of Joy and fight the King's Guard located there. Lyanna gives birth to Jon, making Ned promise to not tell Robert and to claim that he is his own bastard. Once she gets her promise from him, Lyanna dies. Simultaneously, Rhaella and Viserys escape, and she gives birth to Dany and also passes.



Would love for this to happen. Get to work HBO!
Posted by Bigpoppat
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Posted on 1/6/14 at 5:33 pm to
quote:

My memory is lacking here, but why didn't Robert go to the Tower of Joy to rescue "his love". Was he too injured from the Trident?


He was banged up pretty badly. Rhaegar wounded Robert before he was killed
Posted by Bigpoppat
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Member since Oct 2008
9212 posts
Posted on 1/6/14 at 5:34 pm to
quote:

So I've been thinking about a Robert's Rebellion mini-series, and think it could do well


make it happen HBO
This post was edited on 1/6/14 at 5:35 pm
Posted by BluegrassBelle
RIP Hefty Lefty - 1981-2019
Member since Nov 2010
98913 posts
Posted on 1/6/14 at 6:02 pm to
Just read the Red Wedding chapter and the following Arya chapter with the SO who's doing his first read. He's a bit distraught. He just keeps saying, "I can't believe he KILLED ARYA. I can't believe it".

He's gonna shite bricks when her POV comes back up. I had to talk him out of threatening to give up the books all together.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
108098 posts
Posted on 1/6/14 at 6:10 pm to
quote:

Just read the Red Wedding chapter and the following Arya chapter with the SO who's doing his first read. He's a bit distraught. He just keeps saying, "I can't believe he KILLED ARYA. I can't believe it". He's gonna shite bricks when her POV comes back up. I had to talk him out of threatening to give up the books all together.


I can't believe he didn't page flip. I did for sure.
Posted by BluegrassBelle
RIP Hefty Lefty - 1981-2019
Member since Nov 2010
98913 posts
Posted on 1/6/14 at 6:13 pm to
quote:

I can't believe he didn't page flip. I did for sure.


I talked him out of it.
Posted by glassman
Next to the beer taps at Finn's
Member since Oct 2008
116088 posts
Posted on 1/6/14 at 6:16 pm to
quote:

I talked him out of it.


So evil... you bitch !!!

After throwing the book I had to check.
Posted by BluegrassBelle
RIP Hefty Lefty - 1981-2019
Member since Nov 2010
98913 posts
Posted on 1/6/14 at 6:25 pm to
It was funny because he keeps asking for pictures/clips from the show about the Red Wedding. I've had to kind of work around the fact that they don't show on the show Arya "dying", just getting knocked out.

He's asking far too many questions, I finally had to do the "Listen, if you want me to spoil you on stuff then I will" to shoot him down.
Posted by ladytiger118
Member since Aug 2009
20922 posts
Posted on 1/6/14 at 6:35 pm to
Your SO hasn't watched the show yet?
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
108098 posts
Posted on 1/6/14 at 6:43 pm to
Slight highjack, but how bad arse of an image would this be to end an episode on:

Posted by glassman
Next to the beer taps at Finn's
Member since Oct 2008
116088 posts
Posted on 1/6/14 at 6:47 pm to
quote:

He's asking far too many questions, I finally had to do the "Listen, if you want me to spoil you on stuff then I will" to shoot him down


Poor bastard. I hope that doesn't happen often.

Posted by CCT
LA
Member since Dec 2006
6212 posts
Posted on 1/6/14 at 8:35 pm to
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I can't believe he didn't page flip. I did for sure.

I did, too. Just flipped until I found her name at the heading of her next POV. There were so many "slam-my Nook-down" moments.
Posted by ladytiger118
Member since Aug 2009
20922 posts
Posted on 1/6/14 at 9:15 pm to
It would be a moment for sure. Would probably be the best episode of the series.
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