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re: Crackpot ASOIAF Theories SPOILERS

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Posted by ladytiger118
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Posted on 12/12/13 at 5:52 pm to
"The pizzas are coming! I promise!"

Posted by Analyze That
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Posted on 12/12/13 at 8:00 pm to
A thought occurred to me, if the White Walkers can raise the dead to their armies, what's to stop them from raising undead dragons?

Would they be ice breathing dragons?
Posted by BluegrassBelle
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Posted on 12/12/13 at 8:07 pm to
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Would they be ice breathing dragons?


There is a story out there about an Ice Dragon. I'm still convinced there's one under Winterfell.

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A thought occurred to me, if the White Walkers can raise the dead to their armies, what's to stop them from raising undead dragons?


And so much for sleep tonight.
Posted by Analyze That
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Posted on 12/12/13 at 8:17 pm to
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And so much for sleep tonight.


Just when you thought the Ice Zombie Apocalypse couldn't get any worse.
Posted by Sid in Lakeshore
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Posted on 12/12/13 at 8:57 pm to
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Posted by jrodLSUke
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Posted on 12/12/13 at 9:00 pm to
Don't forget about zombie dire wolves.
Posted by Mr. Wayne
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Posted on 12/12/13 at 9:45 pm to
I think all of us are of the opinion that not al of the dragons make it. Would be freaking nuts if the Others have one to make the final battle interesting
Posted by Dire Wolf
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Posted on 12/12/13 at 10:04 pm to
So since i finished Dance this has been bothering me. Why does Roose Bolton himself in such a shite positions at the end of the book? He surrounds himself with stark loyalist and freys in burned down castle in the beginning of the worst winter in ages. Roose does not make a misstep the whole series and then he walks himself into this, it doesn't make any sense. He has to be playing some game or have a trump card.


my answer:

To kill Ramsey. He bitches through out the series about how much of shite head bastard Ramsey is and he secretly hates him for killing every true born son. He knows he can't kill his kin so Roose allows Reek and "ayra" to escape which he knew would set off Ramsey. He is assuming Ramsey will ether be killed by the winter, or stannis, while he slips back into the clear and spills his seed into the frey wench.

Ramsey gets ambushed by stannis and is thought to have been killed. However he lives and is pissed, he hunts down his father and kills him.


This post was edited on 12/12/13 at 10:06 pm
Posted by ladytiger118
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Posted on 12/12/13 at 10:36 pm to
Ramsay and Roose are both dead meat in the next book, as much as Cersei, Lady Stoneheart, Theon, Asha, Stannis, Mel, Brienne, Victarion, Aeron, and Barristan, JonCon, Doran, etc. are. AKA they're going to die and I don't see Ramsay and Roose as major players heading into ADoS for the 'end game' of the series (wheras I believe the two ' major players' Littlefinger and Varys won't die until ADoS).

I've also watched a YouTube video recently where the guy said that Roose was a descendent of Coldhands or the Night's King or something. Interesting thought though, since Roose is really creepy, uses leeches, etc. I definitely think that he uses some sort of "Old Northern" dark magic, kind of like Craster. LINK
Posted by OMLandshark
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Posted on 12/12/13 at 10:40 pm to
I'd say pretty much everyone still in the Lannister alliance who have to stay with them will be dead by the end of WoW. Losing "Arya" pretty much will destroy the Boltons even if Stannis doesn't lift a finger. I think Roose will be killed by Manderly's men, and Ramsay will die at the Wall when the Others make it come crashing down.
Posted by ladytiger118
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Posted on 12/12/13 at 10:45 pm to
I definitely think the Tyrells and their liege lords/bannermen will switch over to Faegon after Margaery's trial. Plus they were loyal to the Targs during Robert's Rebellion; oh and I definitely don't think that Loras is dead or as near death as we were led to believe in AFFC; there's more going on with Loras in Dragonstone and I'm curious to see what we'll find out.

I just hope Ramsay doesn't come back as a Wight.

I would personally love to see either Jon, Theon, or Stannis kill Ramsay.
Posted by Analyze That
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Posted on 12/12/13 at 10:57 pm to
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I would personally love to see either Jon, Theon, or Stannis kill Ramsay


And when he finishes him off he should say something like "How do you like that, Bastard!?"

Posted by OMLandshark
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Posted on 12/12/13 at 10:59 pm to
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I definitely think the Tyrells and their liege lords/bannermen will switch over to Faegon after Margaery's trial. Plus they were loyal to the Targs during Robert's Rebellion; oh and I definitely don't think that Loras is dead or as near death as we were led to believe in AFFC; there's more going on with Loras in Dragonstone and I'm curious to see what we'll find out.


I honestly think that Loras will be added as a POV character. And the Tyrells certainly aren't going down with the Boltons, the Freys, and Cersei. They'll survive until ADOS.

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I just hope Ramsay doesn't come back as a Wight. I would personally love to see either Jon, Theon, or Stannis kill Ramsay.


I don't think Ramsay will give a frick if any of them kills him (maybe somewhat if Reek kills him). I want Ramsay to die screaming in terror. I think during the moments where the Others invade the Wall, Ramsay will come up with the remaining Bolton men and invade Castle Black, unaware on what is on the other side of the Wall. Ramsey's invasion of Castle Black will ensure the Others' victory, and they'll break through the Wall. The Others riding giant spiders will then come upon Ramsay, who will start screaming in terror. The Others will then literally take him.
Posted by Analyze That
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Posted on 12/12/13 at 10:59 pm to
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I definitely think the Tyrells and their liege lords/bannermen will switch over to Faegon after Margaery's trial. Plus they were loyal to the Targs during Robert's Rebellion; oh and I definitely don't think that Loras is dead or as near death as we were led to believe in AFFC; there's more going on with Loras in Dragonstone and I'm curious to see what we'll find out.


So any theories as to how they are going to discredit Faegon?

Also, I def agree that Lloras isn't dead yet.
Posted by Analyze That
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Posted on 12/12/13 at 11:12 pm to
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I honestly think that Loras will be added as a POV character. And the Tyrells certainly aren't going down with the Boltons, the Freys, and Cersei. They'll survive until ADOS.


Little Finger may have set himself up for it, but Sansa is going to take control of the Vale before too lone.

Dorne is interesting. Dany is inadvertently responsible for Quintin's (sp-chk?/is that the right name)death. However, given how cautionary the Prince of Dorne is, I believe he will let it be as she is his brother-in-law's sister.

The Riverlands are setup for Blackfish to take over and reinstate his nephew.

The Stormlands are a challenge to figure out. I don't see Stannis finishing the series and every other Baratheon will likely be dead say for Myrcella and Stannis' own daughter. I say Stannis' daughter survives to the end, is cured of her greyscale (perhaps by Thoros after UnCat dies and his powers are restored), and she'll wed one of Davo's sons and they shall rule the Stormlands.
Posted by ladytiger118
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Posted on 12/12/13 at 11:19 pm to
I just hope that Ramsay's death scene isn't as anti-climatic as Joffrey's.

Joffrey getting poisoned by choking on a piece of pie was superrrrr lameeeeeeeeee.
Posted by TigerintheNO
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Posted on 12/12/13 at 11:20 pm to
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Roose does not make a misstep the whole series and then he walks himself into this, it doesn't make any sense


Insert=

Balon Greyjoy
Tywin Lannister
Robb Stark
Loras Tyrell
Posted by Analyze That
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Posted on 12/12/13 at 11:24 pm to
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I just hope that Ramsay's death scene isn't as anti-climatic as Joffrey's.

Joffrey getting poisoned by choking on a piece of pie was superrrrr lameeeeeeeeee.


Actually, it was very fitting.

He was never more than a pathetic little boy, and he died pathetically. At his own wedding feast he is upstaged and defeated, well in this case killed.
Posted by thatguy1892
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Posted on 12/12/13 at 11:26 pm to
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Joffrey getting poisoned by choking on a piece of pie was superrrrr lameeeeeeeeee.


Oh come on. Being killed by pie was a prefect way for that little bastard to die. He had been bragging how tough he was and wanted to fight with real swords and then he gets his arse kicked by the Whole Foods Bakery.
Posted by TigerintheNO
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Posted on 12/12/13 at 11:36 pm to
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