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re: Crackpot ASOIAF Theories SPOILERS
Posted on 5/4/13 at 1:07 pm to ladytiger118
Posted on 5/4/13 at 1:07 pm to ladytiger118
Perhaps it wasn't the dragons that brought about the return of magic, but the Others. The Others showed up first and maybe their return made the return of dragons and other magic possible.
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Posted on 5/4/13 at 1:23 pm to PsychTiger
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Perhaps it wasn't the dragons that brought about the return of magic, but the Others. The Others showed up first and maybe their return made the return of dragons and other magic possible.
or rather the Great Other
he knows that his army of Others needs cold to survive so he waits until there's going to be a long winter to get his troops together for an attack
when r'hllor realized this was occurring he began to set in motion what was needed in order to defeat the Others (dragons, AA, Hodor, etc...)
Posted on 5/4/13 at 3:00 pm to Ash Williams
Hodor?
Posted on 5/4/13 at 3:13 pm to NIH
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Hodor?
"Crackpot" theories right
Posted on 5/4/13 at 3:16 pm to Ash Williams
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or rather the Great Other
he knows that his army of Others needs cold to survive so he waits until there's going to be a long winter to get his troops together for an attack
when r'hllor realized this was occurring he began to set in motion what was needed in order to defeat the Others (dragons, AA, Hodor, etc...)
Posted on 5/4/13 at 3:17 pm to Ash Williams
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or rather the Great Other
he knows that his army of Others needs cold to survive so he waits until there's going to be a long winter to get his troops together for an attack
when r'hllor realized this was occurring he began to set in motion what was needed in order to defeat the Others (dragons, AA, Hodor, etc...)
Posted on 5/4/13 at 4:26 pm to Ash Williams
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dragons, AA, Hodor, etc...)
Posted on 5/4/13 at 4:48 pm to putt23
HODOR!
Posted on 5/4/13 at 8:51 pm to CCT
I just saw this crackpot prediction/trolling on the Tower of the Hand website. 
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Jon becomes king after he marries Dany. The two have 3 kids after they learn that the Stark seed is stronger then Dany's scratched up va-jay-jay. The three dragons are warged to the three kids who grow up trained to green dream by their uncle Bran (lord of winterfell) and how to catch cats by their aunt Arya (head of the kingsguard). Every year Jon travels north to visit family and across the shattered wall to pay his respects to Ygrette. Sansa marries the hound and the two take over the Eyrie, having twin boys named Robert and Robin. Brienne battles Franken-Gregor, vanquishing the abomination while saving Jaime. Brienne is heavily injured in the fight, but we learn that her wounds have actually improved her looks, much to Jaime's pleasure. The two move to Harrenhal to enjoy the baths there. Tyrion is revealed to be the product of Joanne hooking up with the children of the forest. Using his super tree powers, Tyrion is able to vanquish the others whilst doing a somersault from dragonback. He kills off Cersei by letting the mobs of kingslanding do a Lollys Stokeworth on her. He serves as Hand for many years finally retiring to Casterly Rock, fat, happy, and rich.
Posted on 5/4/13 at 8:59 pm to CCT
CRACKPOT THEORY:
This one didn't occur to me until I read this passage from the epilogue of Dance with Dragons:
The cats keep the rats down like a spider culls the flies.
Varys is a warg and the "bad cat" is his vessel along with all his little birds (children missing their tongues).
The prologue of Dance with Dragons was basically a chapter on warging and consequences of warging into other humans.
In the prologue when Varamyr tried to warg into Thistle, she screams, "GET OUT! GET OUT!"... then the Varamyr bit their tongue off. I'd speculate it's easier to warg into a six year old than a fully grown human.
Tyrion, in Varys's chambers awaiting a visit with Shae, noticed there were no papers or traces of all the "whispers" Varys gets. There probably wasn't any because he communicates with his little spies telepathically through his warging abilities.
Moreover, Jaime describes many of the secret passages searched in the Red Keep being too small for grown men and some even too small for children. A few men ended up getting stuck in the search for Tyrion.
The warging abilities could also explain his exceptional talents as a thief, he could search any house he wanted in the skin of a household pet.
It's also safe to assume Varys never left King's Landing after Tyrion fled. In the epilogue it's clear Varys knew everything that's been going on in King's Landing, even up to the last small council meeting that took place just hours before.
This one didn't occur to me until I read this passage from the epilogue of Dance with Dragons:
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"The bad cat was outside my widow last night," he informed Kevan at one point, "but Ser Pounce hissed at him and he ran off across the roofs,"
"The bad cat?" Ser Kevan said amused. He is a sweet boy.
"An old black tomcat with a torn ear," Cersei told him. "A filthy thing, and foul-tempered. He clawed Joff's hand once." She made a face. "The cats keep the rats down, I know, but that one...he's been known to attack ravens in the rookery."
"I will ask the ratters to set a trap for him." Ser Kevan...
The cats keep the rats down like a spider culls the flies.
Varys is a warg and the "bad cat" is his vessel along with all his little birds (children missing their tongues).
The prologue of Dance with Dragons was basically a chapter on warging and consequences of warging into other humans.
In the prologue when Varamyr tried to warg into Thistle, she screams, "GET OUT! GET OUT!"... then the Varamyr bit their tongue off. I'd speculate it's easier to warg into a six year old than a fully grown human.
Tyrion, in Varys's chambers awaiting a visit with Shae, noticed there were no papers or traces of all the "whispers" Varys gets. There probably wasn't any because he communicates with his little spies telepathically through his warging abilities.
Moreover, Jaime describes many of the secret passages searched in the Red Keep being too small for grown men and some even too small for children. A few men ended up getting stuck in the search for Tyrion.
The warging abilities could also explain his exceptional talents as a thief, he could search any house he wanted in the skin of a household pet.
It's also safe to assume Varys never left King's Landing after Tyrion fled. In the epilogue it's clear Varys knew everything that's been going on in King's Landing, even up to the last small council meeting that took place just hours before.
This post was edited on 5/5/13 at 3:00 am
Posted on 5/4/13 at 9:15 pm to Hugo Stiglitz
Dude.
Impressive.
I like the varamyr tongue/Warg clue- I think GRRM leaves clues like this all the time. Some of that shite HAS to be purposeful.
If Varys can Warg it would explain the lil birds almost literally. Plus the need for small, childlike bodies.
This is a great find. Good job!
Boom.
Impressive.
I like the varamyr tongue/Warg clue- I think GRRM leaves clues like this all the time. Some of that shite HAS to be purposeful.
If Varys can Warg it would explain the lil birds almost literally. Plus the need for small, childlike bodies.
This is a great find. Good job!
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The cats keep the rats down like a spider culls the flies.
Boom.
This post was edited on 5/4/13 at 9:17 pm
Posted on 5/4/13 at 9:28 pm to 19
Nice Crackpot theory. We know Targaryens can warg due to Bloodraven, so its not completely absurd to say Varys may have the ability.
Posted on 5/4/13 at 9:36 pm to Hugo Stiglitz
I think I like the idea of Varys as a warg better than as a Targaryen/Blackfyre. Maybe he could be both, but there's only one other warg & Targaryen descendant I can think of: Bloodraven.
Warging isn't a Targaryen trait, its one of the First Men, he got it from his mother's side (Mylessa Blackwood), not his father.
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OMLandshark
Warging isn't a Targaryen trait, its one of the First Men, he got it from his mother's side (Mylessa Blackwood), not his father.
This post was edited on 5/4/13 at 9:38 pm
Posted on 5/4/13 at 9:48 pm to Hugo Stiglitz
The bad cat is Aerys' daughter's old kitten
Posted on 5/4/13 at 9:52 pm to CottonWasKing
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The bad cat is Aerys' daughter's old kitten
This is what I've always thought as well.
Posted on 5/4/13 at 10:10 pm to BluegrassBelle
The same cat arya was chasing when she found the dragon skulls
Posted on 5/4/13 at 11:09 pm to Hugo Stiglitz
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Varys is a warg
Posted on 5/4/13 at 11:10 pm to BlackleafBaller
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Warging isn't a Targaryen trait, its one of the First Men, he got it from his mother's side (Mylessa Blackwood), not his father.
Didn't know about that little tidbit. Never thought about Bloodraven's mother's side.
Posted on 5/4/13 at 11:11 pm to CottonWasKing
Can someone help me out with a link to the D&E novellas online? Werent they on tower of the hand or somewhere? I can't find them, thanks.
Posted on 5/4/13 at 11:13 pm to CCT
Now that I think about it, that makes a lot of sense. 
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