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Posted on 3/18/13 at 11:33 am to
Posted by Ash Williams
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Posted on 3/18/13 at 11:33 am to
So i've read all the books twice

read the dunk and egg stories

read every piece of info i can get on upcoming books

watched every episode of the series

is it still too late for me to join this thread?

i mean almost 200 pages

no way i could read all that

thats almost 4000 posts, even george rr martin would consider that too long of a read
Posted by 19
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Posted on 3/18/13 at 11:54 am to
Sounds like you're in the perfect spot to join the party -

Yeah, we've weaved a lengthy yarn so far, so speaking collectively (how dare I!) I can say with comfort we don't expect everyone to read the whole thread before posting, but I would recommend you read it page by page at leisure, as you keep current from this point on.

You may come across an answer before posting the question, or develop questions from already covered ground the rest of us didn't see.

So if you have a burning question, fire away.

No Nazis live here...nor do we speak the language

Cotton needs to index the OP at some point, as he birthed this monster, for the sake of reference points for newcomers if nothing else.

One day, we can condense this into a book. Kingbob already gave us the title.
Posted by Ash Williams
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Posted on 3/18/13 at 11:56 am to
quote:

Yeah, we've weaved a lengthy yarn so far, so speaking collectively (how dare I!) I can say with comfort we don't expect everyone to read the whole thread before posting, but I would recommend you read it page by page at leisure, as you keep current from this point on.



i'll read the last 10 pages to see where yall are in current conversation, then i'll start trying to catch up as time allows



so anybody bring up that red wedding yet? crazy stuff huh?

















just kidding
Posted by manwich
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Posted on 3/18/13 at 12:02 pm to
quote:

im pretty sure the show is going to do away with the hunt for edric storm
i thought they already did last season. in the book, Stannis intended to lay siege to Storm's End prior to the Battle of the Blackwater. Davos sailed Melisandre under cover of darkness to a cave under Storm's End where Melisandre released her second shadow baby to kill Ser Cortnay Penrose making the siege unnecessary.

what we saw in the show was Davos and Melisandre's shadow baby scene being portrayed as the shadow that kills Renly at the parlay. since we are past the Storm's End and Blackwater scenes, i assume Edric won't be brought up
Posted by 19
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Posted on 3/18/13 at 7:02 pm to
Combining edric and Gendry into one character makes so much sense it makes me wonder why Martin made them separate in the books.
Posted by kingbob
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Posted on 3/18/13 at 7:11 pm to
quote:

One day, we can condense this into a book. Kingbob already gave us the title.


You're welcome
Posted by BlackleafBaller
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Posted on 3/18/13 at 7:17 pm to
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Combining edric and Gendry into one character makes so much sense it makes me wonder why Martin made them separate in the books.



I think the Edric Storm story was more to emphasize the power/importance of kings blood and magic. I really don't see his character even coming back into the books, unless at the conclusion. Gendry's story on the other hand I think has a lot of potential, but it wouldn't make sense for him to have been used by Stannis and Mel as one of Roberts bastards because he was at Harrenhall or on the road at that time so they just needed another character.

...On another note: does anyone else think that the Dunk and Egg novels are going to play an important enough role in the current storyline (specfically the Tragedy of Summerhall) that it is part of the reason its taking so long to write everything up or is it just going to be a back story that has really no impact on the ASOIAF series? I get the feeling that maybe Egg sent Bloodraven up to the Wall for a reason other than just as a member of the "Honor Guard"...the Targaryens were known for having prophetic dreams so maybe one of them saw what was going to happen in regards to The Others or something else.
Posted by CottonWasKing
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Posted on 3/18/13 at 7:40 pm to
Holy shite we're close to 200 pgs
Posted by CottonWasKing
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Posted on 3/18/13 at 7:42 pm to
quote:

Cotton needs to index the OP at some point, as he birthed this monster, for the sake of reference points for newcomers if nothing else.



I wouldn't know where to fricking begin but if anyone wants to help me on this massive undertaking I will gladly attempt.

I wasn't prepared for 200 fricking pages when I started this thread
Posted by Methuselah
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Posted on 3/18/13 at 7:42 pm to
I just hope that at least Gendry plays a part from here on out. Sometimes it kind of looks like he's not got much more of a storyline to go. There are so many characters floating around now that it seems like some of them may get a bit of the short shrift.
Posted by CottonWasKing
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Posted on 3/18/13 at 7:45 pm to
It's going to be extremely hard for GRRM to tie all the loose ends together
Posted by CottonWasKing
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Posted on 3/18/13 at 7:49 pm to
Speaking of loose ends what are the chances that Stannis's knight (can't remember his name) makes it back from across the narrow sea in time to be of importance? I'm thinking slim to none
Posted by Methuselah
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Posted on 3/18/13 at 8:07 pm to
quote:

Speaking of loose ends what are the chances that Stannis's knight (can't remember his name) makes it back from across the narrow sea in time to be of importance? I'm thinking slim to none

Davos? I think he definitely has a part left to play. I think he's gone to find Rickon who I also think has a part left.
Posted by CottonWasKing
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Posted on 3/18/13 at 8:10 pm to
No the one he sent with the guy from the Iron Bank. He was sent to go get mercenarys for Stannis or his daughter if Stannis is dead
Posted by 19
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Posted on 3/18/13 at 8:16 pm to
Yeah I know who you're talking about - its in the Theon preview chapter from WOW.

And Cotton - (indexing)

You're molesting the pig, we're just holding it down!
Posted by CottonWasKing
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Posted on 3/18/13 at 8:17 pm to


Do you remember how random this thing has been throughout its entirety? There is absolutely no method to our madness
Posted by 19
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Posted on 3/18/13 at 8:21 pm to
The knight he sent is Justin Massey

I know it would be impossible. A very tongue in cheek suggestion to index. We can do that when we get ready to publish. Carson and Shark are good at tedious details.

I meant that as a compliment, guys.
This post was edited on 3/18/13 at 8:24 pm
Posted by CottonWasKing
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Posted on 3/18/13 at 8:23 pm to
Yea that's his name. Was it really in the sample chapter? I could've sworn it was in dance
Posted by CottonWasKing
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Posted on 3/18/13 at 8:29 pm to
quote:

I know it would be impossible. A very tongue in cheek suggestion to index. We can do that when we get ready to publish. Carson and Shark are good at tedious details.


It would be awesome It would just take me 12 years
Posted by 19
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Posted on 3/18/13 at 8:34 pm to
Theon chapter

Easier to find than I thought. Old links bring you to Arianne chapter now LINK
This post was edited on 3/18/13 at 8:35 pm
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