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The episode for season 3 that Martin scripted has changed the name again. He didn't outright say it on his blog, but he left the little clue frog guy up as his avatar for the post and the hint at the end is
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I lost a title, but gained a song

Rains of Castamere?






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The Reeds 1st appearance?





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"It's Reyning (Dead Stark) Men"
By Renly and the Rainbow Royalettes?

No seriously:

At this point in the story, does Arya know that Bran and Rick are "dead" by Theon? That Sansa is MIA?
She knows about TRW. Right?

While I'm at it, do any of the Vale big-shots suspect who Alaine is?






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At this point in the story, does Arya know that Bran and Rick are "dead" by Theon?


I'm pretty sure she found out about this at Harrenhal.

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She knows about TRW. Right?


She was there. I think she pieced it together in the aftermath. They also ran into a dying soldier a little after that gave the Hound and her a little more info.

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That Sansa is MIA?


I don't think so. I think she was maybe on her way to Braavos when the PW happened.

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While I'm at it, do any of the Vale big-shots suspect who Alaine is?


I would think that LF has or will tell someone because he is planning on marrying her to Harry the Heir. Harry wouldn't marry her unless he knew. Alayne is only LF's natural daughter.






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While I'm at it, do any of the Vale big-shots suspect who Alaine is?


Kind of the opposite of what you are asking, but if one guy pieces things together, it could be bad news for Sansa. The Mad Mouse, who was with Brienne for a while looking for Sansa (although his motives are more sinister), is now in the Vale.






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So I'm sure this was already talked about at some point in this thread, but as I was re-watching both seasons I got to thinking about some of the prophecies referenced in the series.

Do you guys think that Azor Ahai and the prince who was promised are supposed to be the same person or are they two different individuals? It seems there is a lot of support for either side.






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Do you guys think that Azor Ahai and the prince who was promised are supposed to be the same person or are they two different individuals?


PtwP is John. Azor Ahai is Dany. Or vice versa as Maester Aemon told us, prophecies can get the sex wrong. Could be Princess that was Promised.

My biggest worry about the trailer is that we see Tormund Giantsbane climbing the Wall. I think we also see him, along with Varymyr, set to kill the lone soldier close to the Queenscrown on the South side of the Wall. In the book of course, it's Styr, the Magnar of Thenn that goes over the Wall with John and dies in the Battle at Castle Black. I'm going to be severely disappointed if they substitute the two and kill off my favorite Wildling in the process. So not Har! IMO



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If the question is do both prophs point to the same person, physically, then probably not.

Both prophecies being just 2 different versions of the same "savior" is another question. I really don't have a clue what Martin has said about it, but I get the feeling most fans agree that the two are separate beings AND persons altogether-

The prophecy Rhaegar/ Targs were obsessed with is TPtwP - we suspect Jon. Maester Aemon thought it Dany - but he didn't know Jon's hx.

The Red God religion prophecy is AA - (NOT Stannis, and he knows it)
Mel thinks it could be Jon, too...but I think that's a red herring. I don't know if AA isn't Dany, but I think it's a character yet to be revealed and has been him/her all along...the clues will link somehow.

Side note on the Targ/ PtwP: I think the tragedy at Summerhall holds keys to this...hoping we will get to live it in real time via D&E, but that's a good ways off...I think there was more to it than just an attempted egg-hatching gone awry....




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we see Tormund Giantsbane climbing the Wall...In the book of course, it's Styr, the Magnar of Thenn that goes over the Wall


combining Wildlings should be illegal, on either side of the Wall.






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Azor Ahai & PWWP


I believe that they are the same person. Dany is also the only character that fits all of the requirements. Also, I don't believe that Martin will introduce a new character at this point in the story that turns out to be the prophecy. If it's not Dany then it will be an already established character.






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store.hbo.com has a full size Iron Throne which can be yours at the reasonable price of 30,000 bux. fyi





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few questions and observations i've thought of since finishing the books...

where's eddard starks bones?

where did the onion knight go to look for rickon stark?

i guess little finger got lysa tully to kill her husband so eddard stark would be hand so he would be killed to leave little finger katelyn stark? thats what i understood her to say before taking her flight. little finger would appear to be a damn good player in a game of thrones...

jon snow is a warg/skin changer, guess he got the talent from ed starks sister if he is indeed her son? why hasn't sansa stark displayed warg/skin changing abilitys like the others?






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where's eddard starks bones?



My guess is they are at Greywater Watch with Howland Reed until it is safe to return them to Winterfell.

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where did the onion knight go to look for rickon stark?


Most agree that he is heading to (or there already) Skagos. There was a comment by one of the people in that Manderly conversation about cannibals, and that is the most common thing people know about Skagos.

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why hasn't sansa stark displayed warg/skin changing abilitys like the others?


I would assume that they start to realize their abilities by warging into their wolves. Sansa's was killed very early on, so she never developed that connection. She also appears to shun her Stark side, so not warging is kind of a metaphor for that.






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where's eddard starks bones?



Cat sent them North to Winterfell but they apparently never arrived. I'm guessing Reed has them and intends to return them to Winterfell when he can.



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where did the onion knight go to look for rickon stark?


Skaagos, an island in the northeast where the natives are rumored to practice cannabalism. That's about all we know of them.

Except that they've never been ruled by the Starks, which makes them pretty fierce in my book.

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i guess little finger got lysa tully to kill her husband so eddard stark would be hand so he would be killed to leave little finger katelyn stark?


I'm still a little lost on LF's motives.


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jon snow is a warg/skin changer, guess he got the talent from ed starks sister if he is indeed her son? why hasn't sansa stark displayed warg/skin changing abilitys like the others?







I guess all the Starks have some latent warging abilities but the familiarity with the wolves allowed it to manifest with no training. Lady was killed before it came to Sansa.




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I'm still a little lost on LF's motives.



I think he wanted to start a war between Lannister and Stark.






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Most agree that he is heading to (or there already) Skagos.

which raises the question why would he head there? to a place with cannibals no less...
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Sansa's was killed very early on, so she never developed that connection.

knew this but still doesn't explain why she doesn't have the same connection as say arya with the cats. the manifestation at a early age and shunning her stark side don't hold water either. a) it's a naturally occuring talent b) sansa became more accepting of her stark side later on.

and the with jon having the talent, same as the rest of ed starks kids, gives me just a shadow of doubt that he is Lyanna Stark's son...






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I'm still a little lost on LF's motives


I'm never had before, but I know think he wants the Iron Throne. If he succeeds with the Harry the Heir plan, he will have control of the North and the Vale. Plus a host of River Lords that will gladly take up arms for the daughter and sister Stark and for revenge for their lost campaign. He can divide Westeros in half, and possess the freshest troops, the Vale has not lost a soldier, and take the fight to the Lannister's. The wild card is Aegon and a Dorne alliance. But he is not aware of the level of danger there I don't think.






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knew this but still doesn't explain why she doesn't have the same connection as say arya with the cats. the manifestation at a early age and shunning her stark side don't hold water either. a) it's a naturally occuring talent b) sansa became more accepting of her stark side later on.


Arya was warging into Nymeria accidentally long before she warged into the cat.






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Plus a host of River Lords that will gladly take up arms for the daughter and sister Stark and for revenge for their lost campaign.


Actually, Littlefinger is technically the Liege Lord of the Riverlands. If he wipes out House Frey, then they'll all gladly join Littlefinger and Sansa. Betting Sansa will be called "The Queen in the North" next novel.






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Don't think this has been posted but season three episode names (save for two) have been released. Let the speculation of what goes where begin.

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•Ep. 301 – Valar Dohaeris
•Ep. 302 – Dark Wings, Dark Words
•Ep. 303 – Walk of Punishment
•Ep. 304 – And Now His Watch is Ended
•Ep. 305 – Kissed by Fire
•Ep. 306 – to be determined
•Ep. 307 – The Bear and the Maiden Fair
•Ep. 308 – to be determined
•Ep. 309 – The Rains of Castamere
•Ep. 310 – Mhysa






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•Ep. 309 – The Rains of Castamere


This either has to be the RW or post RW. I guess either would fit into that song.






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