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WR depth
Posted on 8/13/12 at 9:18 am
Posted on 8/13/12 at 9:18 am
The Chad Johnson thread got me thinking, is anyone else concerned with our WR corps? I know everybody likes to say that Brees can make any receiver look great, but you still need receivers that can get open, catch, and hopefully have some size. Obviously we have Colston, but is Moore really a good #2 receiver? Henderson seems to be declining...and the rest are all unproven. Am I forgetting someone?
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Posted on 8/13/12 at 9:29 am to marinebioman
When Colston missed a portion of the season in 2008, Lance Moore stepped up and showed he could be relied on I thought. He nearly had 1,000 yards receiving and caught 10 touchdowns. Devery is a good blocker in the run game and I think people underrate him there. The way that they line Jimmy Graham up out wide will allow guys like Moore to get one-on-one matchups I guess. Then you have the screen game with PT and Sproles. Hopefully Toon will get back out on the field soon, I'd like to see what he can do.
Posted on 8/13/12 at 9:29 am to marinebioman
I was just thinking about the WRs...with Arrington needing some kind of surgery and Nick Toon being out for three preseason games, I'm a little worried. I don't even like Henderson on the roster, TBH.
ETA: But you also have to realize that Pierre Thomas, Darren Sproles and Jimmy Graham are HUGE components of the passing game, and all are healthy and looking pretty good.
ETA: But you also have to realize that Pierre Thomas, Darren Sproles and Jimmy Graham are HUGE components of the passing game, and all are healthy and looking pretty good.
This post was edited on 8/13/12 at 9:31 am
Posted on 8/13/12 at 9:32 am to marinebioman
Like was already posted, Moore proved he was a more than capable 1. I think fans are coming around, but Moore is one of the better receivers in the league. He almost never drops a catchable ball and makes some pretty damn acrobatic catches. Colston and Moore are very solid. You hope Henderson will step up come gametime and you have to think one or two of AA, Morgan, Tanner, or Toon will make an impact. I lean toward Morgan and Toon.
And yes, adding Graham, Sproles, and Thomas, I don't think our general receiving corps will take a hit. Not to mention I expect our ground game to really ramp up if all stay healthy
And yes, adding Graham, Sproles, and Thomas, I don't think our general receiving corps will take a hit. Not to mention I expect our ground game to really ramp up if all stay healthy
This post was edited on 8/13/12 at 9:34 am
Posted on 8/13/12 at 9:32 am to The Sad Banana
Not that he'll be a starting receiver, but Roby seems to be doing well.
Posted on 8/13/12 at 9:34 am to marinebioman
quote:Jimmy Graham, Darren Sproles and Pierre Thomas get a large number of catches on the team which decreases the need for the WR depth but we have talent in guys like Tanner and Arrington, and Toon considering if they are needed to step up.
The Chad Johnson thread got me thinking, is anyone else concerned with our WR corps? I know everybody likes to say that Brees can make any receiver look great, but you still need receivers that can get open, catch, and hopefully have some size. Obviously we have Colston, but is Moore really a good #2 receiver? Henderson seems to be declining...and the rest are all unproven. Am I forgetting someone?
Posted on 8/13/12 at 9:42 am to Chad504boy
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Jimmy Graham, Darren Sproles and Pierre Thomas get a large number of catches on the team which decreases the need for the WR depth
Great point. I agree, the talent is there. Just no need for a roster spot unless they are really good.
However, Roby is proving he can play WR, plus, he is a very good special teams player. Dude will make the active roster.
Posted on 8/13/12 at 9:42 am to marinebioman
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is Moore really a good #2 receiver
Hell yes. Moore is damn good.
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Henderson seems to be declining..
He had a couple of good games last year. There are the "bad camp" rumors this year. Every time the question of "who is expendable" at WR comes up, he seems to be the guy people point at, and yet he's still here. Maybe this is the year we lose Devery, we'll see.
Some think Roby has no chance of playing WR on this offense, but I disagree. Based on the very little we have seen in this preseason I don't know how you put anyone but him as the #4 or even #3 receiver. Morgan has speed but is very inconsistent. Tanner looks pretty good, but so far Roby has looked better.
Posted on 8/13/12 at 9:44 am to The Sad Banana
Devery is just injured right now
Questioning Moore as a #2?!?
Lance 2008-2011-
53 games, 211 catches, 28 TDs
historically ranks near the top each year in lowest dropped passes %
If ya wanna know lack of depth check the Dolphins...
Legedu Naanee
Davone Best
Brian Hartline (injured)
Clyde Gates
Marlon Moore
Roberto Wallace
Julius Pruitt
etc
I'd have my agent have a film package ready to send to them if I was Joe Morgan, Tanner, etc
Questioning Moore as a #2?!?
Lance 2008-2011-
53 games, 211 catches, 28 TDs
historically ranks near the top each year in lowest dropped passes %
If ya wanna know lack of depth check the Dolphins...
Legedu Naanee
Davone Best
Brian Hartline (injured)
Clyde Gates
Marlon Moore
Roberto Wallace
Julius Pruitt
etc
I'd have my agent have a film package ready to send to them if I was Joe Morgan, Tanner, etc
Posted on 8/13/12 at 9:46 am to blueslover
I think we need to separate the #2 WR vs the #2 WR target.
Lance is a good option as the #2 option on a given play, but he is a slot receive, which generally isn't considered the #2 WR. He is along the lines of Welker or Cruz. Neither are the "#2 WR" but are 1st and 2nd options on any given play.
ETA: A bigger body is more suited to play outside, which conventionally is the #1 and #2 WRs.
Lance is a good option as the #2 option on a given play, but he is a slot receive, which generally isn't considered the #2 WR. He is along the lines of Welker or Cruz. Neither are the "#2 WR" but are 1st and 2nd options on any given play.
ETA: A bigger body is more suited to play outside, which conventionally is the #1 and #2 WRs.
This post was edited on 8/13/12 at 9:47 am
Posted on 8/13/12 at 9:48 am to CptRusty
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Some think Roby has no chance of playing WR on this offense, but I disagree. Based on the very little we have seen in this preseason I don't know how you put anyone but him as the #4 or even #3 receiver. Morgan has speed but is very inconsistent. Tanner looks pretty good, but so far Roby has looked better.
I think he has what it takes for sure. They have never really seemed interested in putting him in that position though. But if he continues to perform like he has I don't see why not.
(Warning-rumor my friend at work just told me that I don't know if there is any truth to because he talks alot) He said that they will be removing the kick return tag from roby and he will be listed as a WR only. He also said that Morgan will get kick return duties. Did I miss something or is he just running his mouth?
Posted on 8/13/12 at 9:52 am to Jayson78
I don't see how Morgan isn't the kick returner.
Posted on 8/13/12 at 9:54 am to The Sad Banana
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I don't see how Morgan isn't the kick returner.
Roby has proved to be serviceable but Morgan has proved he can be special....
Posted on 8/13/12 at 9:57 am to LooseCannon22282
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When Colston missed a portion of the season in 2008, Lance Moore stepped up and showed he could be relied on I thought.
The problem with this is that Moore did that 5 seasons ago & hasn't come near those numbers since. Lance recently the last few seasons has stayed in the training room missing large chunks of the season.
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Devery is a good blocker in the run game and I think people underrate him there.
Yes Devery is a solid blocker but he is not being paid to be an offensive lineman. I like Devery but too many times he disappears for long stretches. I don't have faith in having Henderson stepping up if need be because he struggles against defenders when they play physical against him.
Graham will always be a force in the passing game & PT & Sproles continue being threats in the screen & dumpoff game. Both Colston & Moore have a history of getting banged up. If that were to happen this season, the offense would be looking at having several receivers with limited or no experience having to take significant snaps. Depth isn't the issue after Colston, Henderson & Moore but inexperienced depth is.
Posted on 8/13/12 at 9:57 am to Jayson78
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He said that they will be removing the kick return tag from roby and he will be listed as a WR only. He also said that Morgan will get kick return duties.
Sounds reasonable to me.
Posted on 8/13/12 at 9:59 am to Jayson78
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Did I miss something or is he just running his mouth?
He became a backup to Sproles in the KR game last season. I'm guessing he won't return kicks but will still be gunner.
Posted on 8/13/12 at 10:03 am to SaintEB
I like this Andy Tanner guy. I feel bad for AA87.
Posted on 8/13/12 at 10:06 am to The Sad Banana
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I like this Andy Tanner guy.
I think Tanner could crack the roster with the right opportunity. If AA gets IR'd, I'd guess his chances go up. I just don't think he cracks the roster being practice squad eligible.
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I feel bad for AA87
Me too. I know we throw around the Preseason Allstar label for him alot, I just think he could do well on the everyday roster. I wish he'd get his shot.
Posted on 8/13/12 at 10:09 am to SaintEB
Man, he is getting his shot. He could never stay healthy. And he was always on the roster bubble...what with Meachem being a #1 draft choice (and being decently valuable) and Devery having naked pictures to blackmail the coaches, Arrington couldn't get on the everyday roster.
It's unfortunate that now that he has the chance he can't prove it. I hate this for him, but I guess one man's tragedy is another's opportunity.
Are we ever going to see Toon play?
It's unfortunate that now that he has the chance he can't prove it. I hate this for him, but I guess one man's tragedy is another's opportunity.
Are we ever going to see Toon play?
Posted on 8/13/12 at 10:09 am to BigBrod81
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I don't see how Morgan isn't the kick returner.
sealed his fate costing us 3pts in the NFCCG
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Moore did that 5 seasons ago & hasn't come near those numbers since
Colston was out a lot of that '08 year and LM moved up as the #1. Not disappointed in his numbers since then as a #2 or 3...
'09 he was injured
2010 & 2011- 118 catches, 1390yds, 16 TDs
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