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re: Really hate dealing with car dealerships!Posted by reb13 on 7/25/12 at 10:57 am to Will Cover
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12. Don’t discuss a trade-in until you’ve settled on a price for the car you’re buying – each transaction should be separate and not dependent upon one another.
It doesn't work like that, wholesale for wholesale, retail for retail. They aren't going to sell you a car at invoice and then go around and buy back your car at retail.
re: Really hate dealing with car dealerships!Posted by GeauxColonels on 7/25/12 at 11:29 am to Will Cover
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19. Put deposits on a “credit card” only. Do NOT pay with a check.
Everything you've written is great advice and pretty self-explanatory. However, this one has me confused. Can you explain?
I would also like to add that you never, NEVER tell them how big of a note you're looking for. You need to go in with a pre-approved rate and an idea of the maximum amount you're willing to finance. With that info, you can figure out the note on your own before stepping foot in the dealership. The note doesn't matter to the salesman. All he cares about is getting the car sold. Negotiate price for the purchase separate from the price on the trade-in, separate from the financing.
re: Really hate dealing with car dealerships!Posted by Will Cover on 7/25/12 at 11:46 am to reb13
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Really hate dealing with car dealerships!
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12. Don’t discuss a trade-in until you’ve settled on a price for the car you’re buying – each transaction should be separate and not dependent upon one another.
It doesn't work like that, wholesale for wholesale, retail for retail. They aren't going to sell you a car at invoice and then go around and buy back your car at retail.
I never said they have to buy your existing vehicle at retail. I said each purchase should be treated as a separate transaction. One has NOTHING to do with the other.
re: Really hate dealing with car dealerships!Posted by Will Cover on 7/25/12 at 11:49 am to GeauxColonels
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19. Put deposits on a “credit card” only. Do NOT pay with a check.
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Everything you've written is great advice and pretty self-explanatory. However, this one has me confused. Can you explain?
If you have to order a vehicle and must place a deposit to secure your vehicle of choice, a credit card is a better choice of payment. If you are like many and suffer from buyer's remorse days after making a big purchase decision, you at least have the protection of your credit card company in case negotiations break down.
If you pay by check, your bank is less likely to have your back.
This post was edited on 7/25 at 11:51 am
re: Really hate dealing with car dealerships!Posted by Kingwood Tiger on 7/25/12 at 12:28 pm to Will Cover
We have an offer from one dealer here in Houston for 37k fully loaded highlander. Msrp is 42k. Got another dealer saying they can meet. We are gonna go this evening and see what if anything they will come off. Gonna tell them we want the rebate plus zero percent financing. Even though we will pay off at end of year.
Thanks for tips.
Thanks for tips.
re: Really hate dealing with car dealerships!Posted by wegotdatwood on 7/25/12 at 12:55 pm to Kingwood Tiger
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plus zero percent financing
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Even though we will pay off at end of year.
Why do that if it's free money?
re: Really hate dealing with car dealerships!Posted by Puck82 on 7/25/12 at 1:14 pm to Will Cover
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One has NOTHING to do with the other.
Until it is time to buy. Here in LA you want it to be one transaction. If you trade in your existing vehicle you only pay taxes on the difference between your trade and new. You do not pay taxes on the full purchase price.
re: Really hate dealing with car dealerships!Posted by Will Cover on 7/25/12 at 1:15 pm to wegotdatwood
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Why do that if it's free money?
While it may not be the "smart" thing to do financially, I would do the same thing.
It's a great feeling not having any debt except for the house.
re: Really hate dealing with car dealerships!Posted by Will Cover on 7/25/12 at 1:16 pm to Puck82
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Until it is time to buy. Here in LA you want it to be one transaction. If you trade in your existing vehicle you only pay taxes on the difference between your trade and new. You do not pay taxes on the full purchase price.
That's fine. Solidify one deal in writing before you even mention the next deal. Then you can combine, but at least you have it written twice and can compare the numbers for the final, one transaction.
This post was edited on 7/25 at 1:17 pm
re: Really hate dealing with car dealerships!Posted by Will Cover on 7/25/12 at 1:17 pm to Kingwood Tiger
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We have an offer from one dealer here in Houston for 37k fully loaded highlander. Msrp is 42k. Got another dealer saying they can meet. We are gonna go this evening and see what if anything they will come off. Gonna tell them we want the rebate plus zero percent financing. Even though we will pay off at end of year.
Thanks for tips.
15. Extended warranties never make financial sense.
16. Be aware of “extra” charges such as administrative fees, handling charges, advertising fees, paint protection, VIN etching – simply do not pay these as these are deal breakers. And believe it or not, even “delivery” charges are negotiable.
17. Get the deal in writing. Full disclosure, in writing, of all fees pertaining to your vehicle purchase, such as destination, title, documentation, licensing and registration. If the dealer will not put it in writing, “walk away.”
And don't forget about the "If I" sales tactic.
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re: Really hate dealing with car dealerships!Posted by AUtigerNOLA on 7/25/12 at 5:17 pm to Will Cover
Really great advice.
I got to ask and I'm sure you get this alot:
Is Daffy fapping?
I got to ask and I'm sure you get this alot:
Is Daffy fapping?
re: Really hate dealing with car dealerships!Posted by ATL TGR on 7/25/12 at 5:35 pm to Kingwood Tiger
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zero percent financing.
Watch out. They will capitalize 100% of the interest and include it within the loan amount. Then no matter when you pay it off they get all the interest
re: Really hate dealing with car dealerships!Posted by Kingwood Tiger on 7/25/12 at 9:41 pm to ATL TGR
Walked out on them. Got the dealer we went to to offer at 36,750....but then when they did the value on my wife's 2004 Honda Accord EX, which is in amazing shape...even the dealer said so, they only offered 3500...trade in on kbb is like 6K.
We took the keys to hers and walked out. Probably gonna sell her car first.
Wish the 2013 Nissan Pathfinders would hurry up and come out so we wouldn't have to mess with Toyota people.
We took the keys to hers and walked out. Probably gonna sell her car first.
Wish the 2013 Nissan Pathfinders would hurry up and come out so we wouldn't have to mess with Toyota people.
re: Really hate dealing with car dealerships!Posted by L S Usetheforce on 7/25/12 at 9:52 pm to Kingwood Tiger
Never walk out on a good deal because of a trade in...........
re: Really hate dealing with car dealerships!Posted by wegotdatwood on 7/25/12 at 9:53 pm to Kingwood Tiger
The Pathfinder is one ugly arse suv.
You can sell that Honda for 5 to 6k easy. People are always looking for old cheap hondas. I plan on driving my new car for 10 to 15 years. After that, my plan is to buy old Honda's and try and make them last 5 years.
My brother drove a 1991 accord recently for 2 years without problems. Cost $1200.
You can sell that Honda for 5 to 6k easy. People are always looking for old cheap hondas. I plan on driving my new car for 10 to 15 years. After that, my plan is to buy old Honda's and try and make them last 5 years.
My brother drove a 1991 accord recently for 2 years without problems. Cost $1200.
re: Really hate dealing with car dealerships!Posted by dallastiger55 on 7/26/12 at 7:35 am to wegotdatwood
have you seen the new 2013 Pathfinders that come out in October? completely different car built on a maxima base.
re: Really hate dealing with car dealerships!Posted by Will Cover on 7/26/12 at 6:35 pm to AUtigerNOLA
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I got to ask and I'm sure you get this alot:
Is Daffy fapping?
Swatting a fly.
re: Really hate dealing with car dealerships!Posted by pleading the fifth on 7/26/12 at 7:27 pm to Will Cover
Any additional advice when you plan to lease a vehicle as opposed to purchasing?
re: Really hate dealing with car dealerships!Posted by Will Cover on 7/26/12 at 9:57 pm to pleading the fifth
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Any additional advice when you plan to lease a vehicle as opposed to purchasing?
Make sure you understand the following before you go to lease a vehicle:
Money Factor
Acquisition Fee
Capitalized Cost Reduction
Residual Value
Early Termination
Mileage Overage
Do NOT get into a lease that is longer than the manufacturer's warranty.
Do NOT put a lot of money down on a vehicle that you do not plan to own.
Do NOT get focused strictly on the lower monthly payment price.
Do NOT negotiate from MSRP on a lease. Leases can be negotiated from invoice.
Rebates and dealer incentives do apply for leases.
More tips:
An "acquisition fee" can be waived.
Do not pay to have the car "cleaned up" for when you turn it back in. This is part of what the "acquisition fee" covers. No need to pay it twice.
This post was edited on 7/26 at 9:57 pm
re: Really hate dealing with car dealerships!Posted by pleading the fifth on 7/26/12 at 10:41 pm to Will Cover
Thanks, the studying has begun.
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