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What constitutes "media darling" and hypathetical scenario?
Posted on 7/20/12 at 12:24 pm
Posted on 7/20/12 at 12:24 pm
Question regarding what creates a "media darling." These are usually associated with larger markets that can generate ratings for ESPN. However, there are those teams that are still considered "media darlings" that are not in large markets, i.e. Alabama and Notre Dame. Although they both have strong histories in college football and Notre Dame still seems to remain a "media darling" even though they are consistently terrible, it seems bama did not become this full fledged "media darling" until Nick Saban showed up and they started winning again.
Thinking hypathetically, if Nick Saban returns to LSU instead of going to Bama and there is no Les Miles, do you think LSU would be considered a "media darling?"
Thanks
Thinking hypathetically, if Nick Saban returns to LSU instead of going to Bama and there is no Les Miles, do you think LSU would be considered a "media darling?"
Thanks
Posted on 7/20/12 at 12:27 pm to acarso1
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Thinking hypathetically, if Nick Saban returns to LSU instead of going to Bama and there is no Les Miles, do you think LSU would be considered a "media darling?"
LOLWUT
Posted on 7/20/12 at 12:31 pm to PurpleAndGold86
everyone hates LSU....always.
Posted on 7/20/12 at 12:31 pm to acarso1
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What constitutes "media darling
any team someone in the media says is good that is not the team of the person complaining about media bias.
Posted on 7/20/12 at 12:31 pm to acarso1
Why do you care so much about the media? Only opinions you should care about are from the oddsmakers. Not a producer that's pushing for ratings
Posted on 7/20/12 at 12:34 pm to Roll JaMarcus Roll
If it wasn't made clear last year, in our current system the media play a very large role in CFB. This is something that needs to be accepted, even with a 4-team playoff system.
Posted on 7/20/12 at 12:41 pm to acarso1
No, Alabama has been a "media darling" basically as long as there has been a media. However, even media darlings need to be good to get the slobbering that the media is eager to give them. It is the combination of the explosion of college sports media (especially football) in the last 12 years or so and the re-ascendance of Bama football under Nick Saban that has resulted in the gorging of hype we've seen lately. When college football coverage was really exploding (the most recent time), Bama was down so there wasn't as much opportunity to pump them up. But SC was doing really well so there was no real need for Bama. When SC crashed, Saban had Bama back into national preeminence so the spotlight turned back to them. Some of us older fans may recall how Bama and Florida shared the spotlight (such as it was) in the early '90s, but then Bama sort of faded as Florida (and to a lesser extent Tennessee) took over dominance in the SEC. But at that same time, Florida State and Nebraska were kicking arse, so there were others to take the spotlight.
The "media darling" tag isn't necessarily a guarantee of drooling. If you look at the attention Notre Dame has received the last few years, it does far outpace the attention other 7-5 or so programs would be receiving. However, it hasn't all (or even mostly) been flattering. The media darling status is pretty much just a measure of how much interest they can get from an audience by talking about you. In the cases of Alabama, Notre Dame, SC, Nebraska, Oklahoma, Michigan, Ohio State, Florida and even LSU (to an extent, recently), they can garner significant interest from a nationwide audience by talking about how good we are when we are really good. In the cases of Notre Dame and SC, they can also garner significant interest from a nationwide audience by talking about how bad they are when they are not good. Alabama may well fall into that category as well, especially now, once they eventually slip back into mediocrity (as all great programs do).
The "media darling" tag isn't necessarily a guarantee of drooling. If you look at the attention Notre Dame has received the last few years, it does far outpace the attention other 7-5 or so programs would be receiving. However, it hasn't all (or even mostly) been flattering. The media darling status is pretty much just a measure of how much interest they can get from an audience by talking about you. In the cases of Alabama, Notre Dame, SC, Nebraska, Oklahoma, Michigan, Ohio State, Florida and even LSU (to an extent, recently), they can garner significant interest from a nationwide audience by talking about how good we are when we are really good. In the cases of Notre Dame and SC, they can also garner significant interest from a nationwide audience by talking about how bad they are when they are not good. Alabama may well fall into that category as well, especially now, once they eventually slip back into mediocrity (as all great programs do).
Posted on 7/20/12 at 12:51 pm to King Joey
quote:I have a want for LSU to be the team that sends them on their way, preferably in a free-fall instead of a slip.
Alabama may well fall into that category as well, especially now, once they eventually slip back into mediocrity
Posted on 7/20/12 at 12:59 pm to acarso1
That perception of Bama has been around a long time and is well-deserved. Repost your thread after we've been winning for 30 years.
They got a name for the winners in the world
And I want a name when I lose.
They call Alabama the "Crimson Tide"
Call me Deacon Blues...
They got a name for the winners in the world
And I want a name when I lose.
They call Alabama the "Crimson Tide"
Call me Deacon Blues...
Posted on 7/20/12 at 1:12 pm to DadFanAlum
So you don't think LSU with Nick Saban as the face of the program becomes a "media darling?" I disagree and believe fully that a coach plays a very large factor in influencing media.
Posted on 7/20/12 at 1:22 pm to acarso1
quote:Yes, and almost all of the factor is how much he wins. Saban didn't make Michigan State a media darling, or Toledo. And he didn't make LSU a media darling until he starting winning big, and even then it didn't really take hold until after he had left. Saban didn't make Bama into a "media darling" any more than Pete Carroll made SC into one. A long line of guys with names like Bryant, Wade, Jones and McKay, etc., did that. Saban took that media darling program and turned into a national championship caliber media darling program. That's why there's been so much hype around Bama lately.
I disagree and believe fully that a coach plays a very large factor in influencing media.
If we keep winning big and winning National Championships, we will definitely ascend to that level. And once that happens, after we inevitably slide back into mediocrity we too can see a superstar coach bring us back to national championship caliber status and see a whole bunch of media hype around us, too. It might not ever be as much as Bama gets, but they do have a lead of decades more greatness than we do.
Posted on 7/20/12 at 1:33 pm to acarso1
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hypathetical
How has the rant not spotted this yet?
This post was edited on 7/20/12 at 1:35 pm
Posted on 7/20/12 at 1:41 pm to acarso1
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Thinking hypathetically, if Nick Saban returns to LSU instead of going to Bama and there is no Les Miles, do you think LSU would be considered a "media darling?"
LSU will never be a media darling. ESPN hates LSU, remember?
Posted on 7/20/12 at 1:44 pm to acarso1
If some of you cared as much about LSU as you do about Alabama, your lives would be much better.
Posted on 7/20/12 at 1:48 pm to harry coleman beast
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If some of you cared as much about LSU as you do about Alabama, your lives would be much better.
Posted on 7/20/12 at 1:49 pm to King Joey
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King Joey
To summarize your post, the "media darling" is the team or teams that are really good. In other words, they talk about the good teams, they don't just "pump" teams they like.
No team got more "media" love than LSU last year or for that matter in 2007. Hell the media that is supposed to "love" USC moved a team they allegendly "hate" in LSU over USC early in 2007 even though USC had not lost yet.
Posted on 7/20/12 at 1:52 pm to acarso1
HypAthetical
HypOthetical
HypERthetical
HypIthetical
HypUthetical
HypYthetical
As long as there is a vowel I guess it doesn't matter.
HypOthetical
HypERthetical
HypIthetical
HypUthetical
HypYthetical
As long as there is a vowel I guess it doesn't matter.
Posted on 7/20/12 at 1:53 pm to acarso1
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So you don't think LSU with Nick Saban as the face of the program becomes a "media darling
Your team can never be a media darling. Ask Bama or USC fans. They will say other teams, Texas or Florida get all the media love and not them.
LSU is already a "media darling" or where some of you not paying attention when Herby and Brent were pimping for us to be #1 after the WVU game?
Posted on 7/20/12 at 2:01 pm to H-Town Tiger
Teams that win are not always "media darlings," for example, Notre Dame.
Yes, you are correct about LSU being a "media darling" just a little further down the list. We were 100 percent a media darling/marketing tool when all the buzz was around the honey badger last year.
Regarding 07, I think Herby owed LSU one after falsely reporting Les Miles taking the Michigan job. However, I beleive we would have gotten in anyways.
Thanks for all of the comments.
Yes, you are correct about LSU being a "media darling" just a little further down the list. We were 100 percent a media darling/marketing tool when all the buzz was around the honey badger last year.
Regarding 07, I think Herby owed LSU one after falsely reporting Les Miles taking the Michigan job. However, I beleive we would have gotten in anyways.
Thanks for all of the comments.
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