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Bill Simmons admits he was wrong about the Lakers CP3 trade..Sort Of
Posted on 7/20/12 at 9:12 am
Posted on 7/20/12 at 9:12 am
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"Three victories don't make you a conqueror."
"It's better than three defeats."
To the suddenly rejuvenated Hornets, who found themselves a new owner (the Benson family), rebuilt themselves through the draft (The Brow and Austin Rivers), free agency (matching Eric Gordon's max offer sheet from Phoenix, then plucking Dorkapalooza favorite Ryan Anderson away from Orlando for $36 million) and one savvy salary dump (dumping cap-clogging Emeka Okafor/Trevor Ariza contracts on Washington for Rashard Lewis's Expiring Contract, then quickly buying out Lewis). I didn't expect to be interested in the Hornets for League Pass purposes before 2014 at least. Who knew? And by the way … you know who gets the lion's share of the credit here?
"I am a Khaleesi of the Dothraki. I am the wife of the great Kahl and I carry his son inside me. The next time you raise a hand to me will be the last time you have hands!"
To David Stern, who turned out to be right (retroactively, but still) when he vetoed a package that netted New Orleans Luis Scola (amnesthetized last week and signed for half the cost), Kevin Martin (very available), Dragic and Houston's 2012 first-rounder, didn't save the Hornets money, didn't allow them to bottom out AND gift-wrapped Chris Paul to the Lakers while somehow saving them millions. The revised deal sent the Hornets expiring contracts, a potential All-Star (Gordon), and Minnesota's no. 1 pick (turned out to be Austin Rivers at no. 10) and allowed them to bottom out (and stumble into the no. 1 overall pick). Looking back, it's no contest and I'm embarrassed that I defended the first deal, especially when they didn't dump Okafor's contract or Ariza's contract in it. And did we learn something that even the people running the NBA believe that, unless you can contend for the title, you're better off bottoming out and buying a lottery ticket? Yes. Yes we did.
"Don't take it personally, I hardly trust myself!"
Does that mean Stern was vindicated by The Veto? Nooooooooooo! He disgraced the league (and his own legacy, and Dell Demps) with the pigheaded way he handled it. The end did not justify the means. I don't think he cares. As Chuck Klosterman and I discussed on the B.S. Report this week, not only does the Notorious D.J.S. have his mojo back, he actually seems to be embracing his newfound status as something of a wrestling heel. Will we ever see another sports commissioner cup his ears and encourage the boos at a league event (like Stern did during this year's draft)? I say no.
Once upon a time, league insiders thought Stern would retire after negotiating last year's television deal and labor agreement. Now? The consensus seems to be, "He's not going ANYWHERE." He's like Lorne Michaels in this respect — both guys know that, as long as they're running the NBA or SNL, everyone will return their calls, everyone will take their meetings, everyone will kiss their asses and fall all over themselves trying to please them, everyone will give them the best table in the restaurant and the best suite in the hotel, nobody will question them using the company jet, and basically, they're going to matter. Once you walk away, that's it. You're yesterday's news. I see both guys holding on as long as they possibly can. Wouldn't you? And on that note, Adam Silver will now light himself on fire.
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Posted on 7/20/12 at 10:08 am to TigerinATL
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I don't think he cares. As Chuck Klosterman and I discussed on the B.S. Report this week, not only does the Notorious D.J.S. have his mojo back, he actually seems to be embracing his newfound status as something of a wrestling heel. Will we ever see another sports commissioner cup his ears and encourage the boos at a league event (like Stern did during this year's draft)? I say no
Posted on 7/20/12 at 11:20 am to TigerinATL
His podcast with Klosterman was solid.
BILL SIMMONS, YOU ARE THE COLDPLAY OF SPORTSWRITERS. It's "cool" to make fun of you and hate you now even though you're clearly among the best at what you do.
BILL SIMMONS, YOU ARE THE COLDPLAY OF SPORTSWRITERS. It's "cool" to make fun of you and hate you now even though you're clearly among the best at what you do.
Posted on 7/20/12 at 11:22 am to MinnesotaTiger
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COLDPLAY
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among the best at what you do.
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A more concise opinion:
Steven Wilson >>>>>> Coldplay
This post was edited on 7/20/12 at 11:24 am
Posted on 7/20/12 at 11:29 am to Jester
WHOA! Jester... your post has caused me to respond with my first ever post on TD.
Steven Wilson is a GENIUS and one of the most underrated musicians in the world.
Like my name?
Steven Wilson is a GENIUS and one of the most underrated musicians in the world.
Like my name?
Posted on 7/20/12 at 12:14 pm to Blackfield
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Steven Wilson is a GENIUS and one of the most underrated musicians in the world.
Like my name?
Ha! I saw the name and clicked on the thread hoping you were a SW fan. I had forgotten for a moment about posting the picture. Glad you decided to join us.
Posted on 7/20/12 at 12:15 pm to Blackfield
amazing restraint to hold out 2.5 years prior to posting
Posted on 7/20/12 at 12:37 pm to MinnesotaTiger
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BILL SIMMONS, YOU ARE THE COLDPLAY OF SPORTSWRITERS. It's "cool" to make fun of you and hate you now even though you're clearly among the best at what you do.
This is terrible on multiple levels alejandro. Coldplay sucks, and Simmons is decent at best. He spends way too much of his time discussing Tom Cruise's sexual orientation, writing 3,000 word articles on the career of Ryan Reynolds, and hosting reality tv fantasy leagues to be considered among the best sports writers.
Posted on 7/20/12 at 12:39 pm to St Augustine
Haha, thanks. Truth is I'm not much of a "message board poster type" with all the inside jokes and emoticon lifestyle.
But I do read and peruse because it is a great source of information (and timely information).
And I'm a (now ducking under my desk) Bama grad living in New Orleans.
Try not to draw too much attention to myself, hehe.
A MAJOR hornets fan, though!
But I do read and peruse because it is a great source of information (and timely information).
And I'm a (now ducking under my desk) Bama grad living in New Orleans.
Try not to draw too much attention to myself, hehe.
A MAJOR hornets fan, though!
Posted on 7/20/12 at 3:40 pm to Blackfield
Welcome to our board. I like Coldplay abs nobody else does.
Posted on 7/20/12 at 3:46 pm to MinnesotaTiger
CK is one of the best. Among those at the top of my list, along with Ziller.
Simmons . . . has his good points.
Simmons . . . has his good points.
Posted on 7/20/12 at 4:31 pm to Jester
Why does everybody act like Coldplay is nickelback or something?
They've had three of the best alternative albums in the past 15 years - both critically AND commercially.
They've had three of the best alternative albums in the past 15 years - both critically AND commercially.
This post was edited on 7/20/12 at 4:32 pm
Posted on 7/20/12 at 4:50 pm to MinnesotaTiger
Love Coldplay. Have 14th row tix in Boston in 1.5 weeks
Posted on 7/20/12 at 5:17 pm to macatak911
Makataks got my back
This post was edited on 7/20/12 at 5:21 pm
Posted on 7/20/12 at 5:36 pm to TigerinATL
I still refuse to believe the Laker-Rockets trade was ever a done deal.
I dont think it was ever a serious possibility and the media was trying to create buzz with another superstar to the Lakers. They got pissed when it didn't go through and everyone blamed Stern and created a conspiracy theory.
The thing is Stern couldn't care less.
I dont think it was ever a serious possibility and the media was trying to create buzz with another superstar to the Lakers. They got pissed when it didn't go through and everyone blamed Stern and created a conspiracy theory.
The thing is Stern couldn't care less.
Posted on 7/20/12 at 5:36 pm to MinnesotaTiger
1. I've never paid money for anything by Coldplay, but they're a very good pop and/or adult alternative band. Well written songs and very good production. Plus, their live show is supposed to be amazing (surprisingly so).
2. I like Simmons.
3. I'm never wrong.
2. I like Simmons.
3. I'm never wrong.
Posted on 7/20/12 at 5:54 pm to Colonel Flagg
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I still refuse to believe the Laker-Rockets trade was ever a done deal.
It is my understanding that this was leaked by the Rockets to try to apply pressure.
The Lakers deal was an alternative to the Clippers deal and designed to both be responsible (need to take the best of more than one deal, not just take what's given), and to apply pressure on the Clippers who started with Bledsoe and not Gordon on the block, then tried to hold back the Minne pick.
Posted on 7/20/12 at 6:24 pm to Colonel Flagg
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I still refuse to believe the Laker-Rockets trade was ever a done deal.
I dont think it was ever a serious possibility and the media was trying to create buzz with another superstar to the Lakers. They got pissed when it didn't go through and everyone blamed Stern and created a conspiracy theory.
I agree with this and what 42 said. It was leaked by somebody, but nobody has ever said WHO said it was a done deal. Everyone believes it was a done deal, but nobody has ever named or even hinted at an original source for such a confident statement.
Posted on 7/20/12 at 6:30 pm to Jester
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I agree with this and what 42 said. It was leaked by somebody, but nobody has ever said WHO said it was a done deal. Everyone believes it was a done deal, but nobody has ever named or even hinted at an original source for such a confident statement.
Why would the league come out and make a statement that they vetoed the trade for "basketball reasons" ? If the deal wasn't agreed to, why wouldn't the NBA just let it die without saying anything? I'm sure Stern must have thought a bunch of unnecessary bad publicity was a good thing.
Posted on 7/20/12 at 6:47 pm to TigerinATL
Way too many parentheses.
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