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Troy Polamalu's Interview on the Dan Patrick Show Yesterday
Posted on 7/19/12 at 9:08 am
Posted on 7/19/12 at 9:08 am
Great interview on the DP show in which the main focus was his style of play and concussions. He admits that he has lied to keep playing about having minor concussions. He also defines these minor concussions as dingers, or getting your bell rung. According to Polamalu NFL players get anywhere from 50-100 of these a year.
ESPN has this as a headline on Sportscenter. I remember listening to the segment on the DP show yesterday thinking it was pretty ordinary and what I would have expected Polamalu to say. Is this that big of a deal? I'd say most football players tell "lies" in order to keep playing, at all levels. But what about the 50-100 "dingers" a season?
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ESPN has this as a headline on Sportscenter. I remember listening to the segment on the DP show yesterday thinking it was pretty ordinary and what I would have expected Polamalu to say. Is this that big of a deal? I'd say most football players tell "lies" in order to keep playing, at all levels. But what about the 50-100 "dingers" a season?
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Posted on 7/19/12 at 9:12 am to brg0320
My question would be if he is lying and therefor I'm assuming not getting cat scans and such, how does he know if he what he has had is a minor concussion or a major one or even a concussion at all?
Posted on 7/19/12 at 9:15 am to jacks40
There's no way to know for sure. His number was an estimation on what he believes people are calling concussions these days. The new concussion tests that are required for all high school players in the country to take makes it possible to identify concussion like syndromes without a cat-scan. But yes, it's obvious that football players aren't examined for concussions 50-100 times per season.
Posted on 7/19/12 at 9:15 am to brg0320
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He admits that he has lied to keep playing about having minor concussions
Nothing new here. It happens at the HS level. The coach may pull you for a play or a series, but they'll let you go back in if you answer the questions correctly.
Posted on 7/19/12 at 9:18 am to CajunFootball
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Nothing new here. It happens at the HS level. The coach may pull you for a play or a series, but they'll let you go back in if you answer the questions correctly.
I coach high school football and that's how it was when I played. But now, especially after the CNN concussion documentary came out about a school in our county, we leave everything concussion related up to the athletic trainers and team physician. I'm not even 100% sure what they administer to the players.
Posted on 7/19/12 at 9:27 am to brg0320
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I'm not even 100% sure what they administer to the players.
Yeah right. I'm picturing this guy when I read your post.
Posted on 7/19/12 at 9:28 am to brg0320
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Is this that big of a deal?
Yes.
THIS is the problem, not the made up bounty boogeyman.
Posted on 7/19/12 at 9:28 am to brg0320
I feel bad for Troy.
He said he's had eight or nine documented concussions. Probably a lot more that didn't get diagnosed.
He also said he's played through concussions.
There's no such thing as a minor concussion. It's like being pregnant. You can't be slightly pregnant. You either are or you aren't.
He said he's had eight or nine documented concussions. Probably a lot more that didn't get diagnosed.
He also said he's played through concussions.
There's no such thing as a minor concussion. It's like being pregnant. You can't be slightly pregnant. You either are or you aren't.
Posted on 7/19/12 at 9:31 am to brg0320
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we leave everything concussion related up to the athletic trainers and team physician
You're not going to know he had a concussion if he's sitting there telling you he's fine.
Posted on 7/19/12 at 9:32 am to bddwolfpack
I have a feeling that this whole players lying about concussions is going to really hurt the old players in their lawsuits against the NFL
Posted on 7/19/12 at 9:32 am to bddwolfpack
I find it disgusting that people like Peter King brought up Junior Seau's suicide and said that the bounty gate stuff was to prevent things like that in the future.
King (and others) have it all wrong. Seau's suicide happened because of the culture that has players lying about brain trauma in order to stay in the game. It's not about a made up bounty boogeyman. It's about the culture that has been in football and other contact sports for a long, long time.
King (and others) have it all wrong. Seau's suicide happened because of the culture that has players lying about brain trauma in order to stay in the game. It's not about a made up bounty boogeyman. It's about the culture that has been in football and other contact sports for a long, long time.
Posted on 7/19/12 at 9:37 am to jacks40
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Yeah right. I'm picturing this guy when I read your post.
I'm about 20 years younger than that guy but nice try...My point was that anything concussion related is taken care of by people who are qualified on our sideline. Whatever they tell us is what goes. We err on the side of caution, which is how it should be. But getting back to the Polamalu topic, his situation is no different than any other starting defensive player in the NFL. How is a trainer going to keep someone like Polamalu out of the game though? Especially if he keeps these things to himself and continues to play.
Posted on 7/19/12 at 9:39 am to jacks40
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I have a feeling that this whole players lying about concussions is going to really hurt the old players in their lawsuits against the NFL
You see, I disagree there. I think it helps their case, when framed properly. They are provided an incentive to lie about concussions and other injuries, because they know that if they don't, they may lose their spot, and thus their income.
Plus, the information they were given indicated that concussions were not as bad as we now know they are.
Posted on 7/19/12 at 9:39 am to CajunFootball
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You're not going to know he had a concussion if he's sitting there telling you he's fine.
Yes, thank you for stating the obvious
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The Immediate Post Concussion Assessment and Cognitive (ImPACT) test, developed by Lovell (and in which he discloses a financial interest), measures factors such as attention span, working memory, sustained and selective attention time, response variability, nonverbal problem solving, and reaction time. "Athletes will tell you they're fine. Kids think they're invincible," Lovell says. If all you're doing is asking them whether their headache's gone, you're letting a teenager manage his own brain injury."
This explains the concussion test that is administered to high school athletes PRIOR to the start of contact practice.
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Posted on 7/19/12 at 10:38 am to brg0320
Not surprising. Done all the time.
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